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[Amazing grace]

Hi dandelion, think it's same for me been on same dose for a year and been stable until now, maybe it's a drop in estrogen, funny my anxiety always starts in the morning, usually better by the evening, maybe you could try an increase, hope you find relief soon, I literally hate the feeling of anxiety surging, x

[CLKD]

My anxiety would begin any time after 3.30 a.m. and I would wake.  Terrified .   

By evening I was a different person who had to learn to say 'no' to any one otherwise, a 'yes' would result in more anxiety first thing 

[Amazing grace]

I can really relate to that CLKD, that seems to be the pattern with my anxiety, bad in the morning, totally different in the evening, x

[Pippa52]

Hi pippa52, thank you so much for your lovely message, it helps so much to know others are experiencing the same, although I wish no one had to suffer these horrible symptoms, I hope you find relief with your symptoms with a hrt that suits, it's very frustrating, I too had trouble with some of the patches and have done better with gel, fingers crossed we both find a happy balance, your message is very much appreciated, very kind of you thank you x

Amazing Grace - thanks so much for your lovely message.  It certainly is that different routes of getting oestrogen suit different people so it's so good there are options to choose from.  I really hope so much you start to feel better soon and I know you will get lots of support on here it is such a great site with so many lovely ladies on it.  Take care xxx

[KarineT]

Hi,

I'm not on HRT but I'm postmeno.

I have anxiety too but I am of anxious nature as I used to have anxiety prior to meno.  The feelings I usually get are mainly this horrible butterfly sensation in the stomach coupled with a fast-beating heart.  It can also make me lethategic a d dizxy.

As for thoughts causing anxiety, it's not always the case. Thoughts & feelings are interrelated and one can trigger the other in any order.  This is particularly horrible though and those who don"t suffer from it will not understand what others have to go through.

As for testing oestradiol levels, I would say it's fairly accurate in postmeno.  I've done a  home test every year since I've reached the menopause and I can clearly see that there is a decline in that hormone.  The result of the last test I did in Jauary 2022 was 29 pmol/l, which is quite low, and is likely to go down even further.  I believe my ovaries have now packed in and, because I'm not on HRT, I don't think the level of oestradiol will shoot up to a higher level than 29 pmol/l.  I would think that the most significant hormonal decline occurs in postmenopause until it stabilises to a very low level.

Karine

[Nas]

Anxiety is the pits in my view.
I had it so bad during peri menopause, that I was barely able to drive my car.
Only my HRT patch makes it more manageable now.

[ange63]

Hi AmazingGrace,  I'm in the same boat atm.  Was doing ok over recent weeks and getting to work and meeting friends to socialise and was all good.   Without full HRT - using Vagifem only.    Then few days ago bam!! back down to lowest and anxiety rocketed (husband has covid at mo and I was not even worrying if I caught it - thought get it out the way!!).   But feels like I've gone back to the start point again.  Trying my usual techniques to manage anxiety but feels bit deeper atm.  Got HRT prescription in the draw and now may give it a try.     Its hard work isn't it??   Exhausted anyway due to poor sleep but all of this just wears you down.... I cannot cry either but wish I could..   I'm trying to focus on positive things and making myself go out so to avoid that not leaving house feeling.    Wish you well x

[Pippa52]

Hi AmazingGrace,  I'm in the same boat atm.  Was doing ok over recent weeks and getting to work and meeting friends to socialise and was all good.   Without full HRT - using Vagifem only.    Then few days ago bam!! back down to lowest and anxiety rocketed (husband has covid at mo and I was not even worrying if I caught it - thought get it out the way!!).   But feels like I've gone back to the start point again.  Trying my usual techniques to manage anxiety but feels bit deeper atm.  Got HRT prescription in the draw and now may give it a try.     Its hard work isn't it??   Exhausted anyway due to poor sleep but all of this just wears you down.... I cannot cry either but wish I could..   I'm trying to focus on positive things and making myself go out so to avoid that not leaving house feeling.    Wish you well x

ange63 - I can and do totally relate to all you say.  It really takes away all confidence and I know exactly what you mean about leaving the house.  The anxiety is most definitely just the pits - I do medication and use the CALM app which helps a bit and am now back on original HRT which has become available again so am praying things will start to calm down at some point soon.  Just wanted to say you certainly are not alone in how you are feeling. xx

[Pippa52]

Hi pippa52, thank you so much for your lovely message, it helps so much to know others are experiencing the same, although I wish no one had to suffer these horrible symptoms, I hope you find relief with your symptoms with a hrt that suits, it's very frustrating, I too had trouble with some of the patches and have done better with gel, fingers crossed we both find a happy balance, your message is very much appreciated, very kind of you thank you x

Amazing grace how are you feeling today? xx

[Amazing grace]

Hi KarineT, thanks for your reply, I wish I could go without hrt, sometimes it brings just as many problems than it solves, I also get the lightheaded thing just seems to be a never ending roller coaster, I think I'm going to test my levels as I'm pretty sure I'm post meno now, thank you for your reply I appreciate it very much.x

Nas, I agree anxiety is the pits, in fact this whole menopause is, just as one symptom is under control up pops another, I too went through that driving thing, at the time I thought how much more can this take from me, I hate the thought of spending the rest of my life this way, thank you for your reply x

Hi ange63, it is hard work, just when you think you've finally found some sort of normal out of the blue, it hits again I'm so fed up, Ive been like you really good, symptoms I was getting I was coping with really well, going out and enjoying life, I too am pushing myself to keep going out as to avoid not leaving the house, don't want to go back to that, good luck if you decide to try the hrt I really hope it works well for you, thank you for your reply x

[Amazing grace]

Hi pippa, I'm feeling a bit better the jittery feeling is still there but not as intense, still got the other symptoms, I'm really hoping it's a temporary thing and will pass, I hate the feeling, my shaky feeling almost feels internal it's a really weird feeling, not helping that my insomnia has also returned, thankyou for asking, I appreciate your support, very kind of you and really helps to not feel so alone In this misery xx
Hi pippa52, thank you so much for your lovely message, it helps so much to know others are experiencing the same, although I wish no one had to suffer these horrible symptoms, I hope you find relief with your symptoms with a hrt that suits, it's very frustrating, I too had trouble with some of the patches and have done better with gel, fingers crossed we both find a happy balance, your message is very much appreciated, very kind of you thank you x

Amazing grace how are you feeling today? xx

[Pippa52]

Amazig grace - yes also have the jittery shaky feelings .... they seem to be worse in the mornings for some reason - really weird.  We are certainly not alone - it seems quite a few of us have to go through these horrible symptoms to get to the other side and achieve the right dose and medication to help us.  Hope so much you continue to improve xx

[ange63]

Pippa, what is your usual HRT regime please.   I've just started slow on half a 50 Everol patch but read on this forum of women who prefer gel....   only started yeday so hopeful will get some benefits...  X

[Pippa52]

Pippa, what is your usual HRT regime please.   I've just started slow on half a 50 Everol patch but read on this forum of women who prefer gel....   only started yeday so hopeful will get some benefits...  X

Hi Ange63 - I am now on 2 sprays of Lenzetto which I apply once daily in the evening.  I was on Lenzetto before it became unavailable due to the shortages and was swopped on to patches which sadly really did not suit me. For me personally the spray or the gel suit me better but everyone is different and it all depends on what suits each person and which form of delivery of the oestrogen they prefer.  I hope so much you start to feel the benefits soon although it does take some time to build up so don't be disheartened if you don't get immediate relief.  I understand 3 months is the time when the beneifits will be totally felt.xxx

[ange63]

Bit of an update:  not sure if what I feel is due to the heat at moment or the HRT.    Feeling bit whoozy/light headed and have to get up slowly or feel bit faint... getting some pressure around the head and face - not headaches but general pressure but this may be my sinusitis so back on antihistamine and bit of lower abdominal pressure so may be gynae build up.    One thing however - usually only get 2/3 hours sleep but last night, in spite of the heatwave,  I had a nap on settee for an hour and then went to bed and slept through for solid 5 hours - only did this once when I took Phenergan for insomnia  So see how things go...... will keep you updated. x