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[Tc]

Update. I lowered from 200 to 175 and the breast pain lessened within 48 hours. So I guess that answers my question.
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[Saffy]

Very quiet and somewhat grumpy Bank hols (me, that is!). Slightly despairing about feeling this knackered and achey for the rest of my life *sigh*. I confess I have also been contemplating lowering my oestrogen as the breast pain is back again halfway through the 12 days of Utro  . Will wait until I have had next blood test first, it's not as bad as it was but it does unnerve me a bit.

Perhaps backing off then increasing oestrogen more slowly later would work for both of us? We've both had quite a leap of oestrogen in one fell swoop I guess. xx

[Tc]

Sorry to hear you're feeling rough saffy. I am thinki g maybe I've been  "messing about" with the E too much. But it's the only way to find out isnt it. I think we both had have been realy disheartened at our lack of absorption so it's only natural to want to try higher doses to see if we get results. I'm sure neither of us "want" to be on a high dose. I must confess that when I hear of ladies who get relief from symptoms on lower doses whilst of course im happy for them I still think "why cant that be me too, what's wrong with me".
And then I heard from you and you have the same issue so whilst I wish you weren't in the same situation it helps to know someone understands. I was feeling very alone with my problem.
I do believe the build up of utrogestan is making me fatigued and depressed tbough.and I wonder if its interfering with my digestion.
 I cant wait to see the doc to find a way around it. I'm just starting testogel today so I dont think I should mess around with anything else right now but I realy want to try a "cycle" instead of continous.
Aside from the breast pain I've noticed definite increased bloating on the higher E. Did you find this too?  It's weird cos with the breast pain and bloating the E is obviously doing something, just nothing positive!!!  Unless it's the P causing that as well.
Saffy I realy hope one day we can look back on all this confusion as the past. Wouldnt it be nice to not have to spend so much time and thought on our effing hormones?
Whens your next blood test?
 
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[Saffy]

Aww, thanks  . God yes, wouldn't it be nice to think about something else! I do hope we will be looking back at this period as 'the wasted years' and not still be experiencing them . Urgh , sorry, I'm a bundle of laughs ATM aren't I  . Of all the problems I thought I might encounter getting hold of and taking HRT, it not working was the furthest from my mind. I was so positive and thrilled that my GP allowed me to not only have HRT but to have the type I was most comfortable with. I feel quite resentful too that I made a huge number of lifestyle changes back before HRT and I still feel so rough at times.

Funnily enough, I've been lurking on the forum for years but it's only in the last year or so that I've noticed more and more women on here talking about absorption issues. I was really starting to think I was going mad (more mad!?).

I've been very lucky and experienced very few side effects from the HRT, although that may be due to lack of absorption! No bloating or digestive issues at all with the oestrogen, although my weight has crept up very slowly in the last year (possibly too many 'treats' and too tired to move much 'though). Initially I started very low and increased very slowly so that might have helped. I have always used the progesterone vaginally from the beginning and initially just one 100 capsule for 12 days as a test run. The first day I was like a walking zombie but haven't suffered significantly since except for the (what was) slight breast pain and noticeable tinnitus from about day 6 of the 12 days and (TMI alert) a tendency towards constipation occasionally. Everyone's side effects vary so much it amazes me how different we all are!

Well that was cheery, I'm not sure I've helped much  . It's all so much trial and error but at least on here we can pick up useful tips and bits of info that we would never have known about if we were relying on the medics alone. My next blood test is due when I can be bothered to book it - need to get brain (and arse) into gear! So probably a couple of weeks with a further couple for results if my GP practice is operating at it's usual pace.

Good grief, I've written an essay! Hope tomorrow is a better day for both of us TC. xx