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Author Topic: Women’s health update vagifem BMS twice a week not enough.  (Read 6522 times)

Maryjane

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This was on twitter on Dr Renees account re vagifem ( local oestrogen).

British Menopause Society Women's Health Update 27th March 2019. Management of urogenital atrophy Professor Linda Cordozo, Professor is urogynacology & consultant gynaecologist, King's College London.


This is what was said


The licensed dose for vagifem ( and be default other vaginal oestrogens ) is too low. In order to work and keep vaginal atrophy at bay we can safely instruct use every other day, not twice a week. ( even 5 Xs a week is acceptable dose ).

Discussion carried on, someone asking why not 7 a week , & the answer was the BMS/ RCGP there is always an element of erring on the side of caution.

So basically if you need it 7'xs a week which many do, well the amount extra is like a grain of salt on your roast. This is IMO not tweeted, although lots of ladies in my VA group use it daily anyway. 😊

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Tinkerbell

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Re: Women’s health update vagifem BMS twice a week not enough.
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2019, 07:19:58 PM »

Hopefully grateful news for those who have GP's who won't budge from the twice a week dose, a lady GP at my practice said she was happy to prescribe five a week to all her ladies.
I use it daily, I think having a Mirena has made it easier to get that agreed.
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CLKD

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Re: Women’s health update vagifem BMS twice a week not enough.
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2019, 07:49:11 PM »

At last  :bouncing:
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suzysunday

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Re: Women’s health update vagifem BMS twice a week not enough.
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2019, 09:51:04 PM »

Good news!
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Katejo

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Re: Women’s health update vagifem BMS twice a week not enough.
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2019, 10:39:17 PM »

Hopefully grateful news for those who have GP's who won't budge from the twice a week dose, a lady GP at my practice said she was happy to prescribe five a week to all her ladies.
I use it daily, I think having a Mirena has made it easier to get that agreed.
Why does having a Mirena make it easier for a GP to agree to daily use? I am trying to limit my use to alternate days but sometimes need consecutive days.
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Tinkerbell

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Re: Women’s health update vagifem BMS twice a week not enough.
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2019, 01:40:43 AM »

Katejo, Gp just seemed happier and it saved me a battle,  although I am not worried about everyday use even if I didn't have the Mirena as meno specialist reassured me.
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Katejo

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Re: Women’s health update vagifem BMS twice a week not enough.
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2019, 01:12:42 PM »

Katejo, Gp just seemed happier and it saved me a battle,  although I am not worried about everyday use even if I didn't have the Mirena as meno specialist reassured me.
I have a follow up urogynaecology appt. tomorrow. When i had the first one, the consultant was pretty good but still appeared to think that Vagifem should only be used twice weekly after the initial 2 weeks. If it comes up in discussion tomorrow, I will bring this BMS announcement up.
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suzysunday

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Re: Women’s health update vagifem BMS twice a week not enough.
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2019, 04:18:30 PM »

I have been using Ovestin for 5 months alternate nights and sometimes more often. Any less and I notice it. My gp is happy with this and prescribes what I need thankfully. I hope she stays at the practice!
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Hurdity

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Re: Women’s health update vagifem BMS twice a week not enough.
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2019, 06:55:09 PM »

Hi Maryjane - that's great news!

However.... I tried to google the info so that I could post a link but the proceedings of the meeting are only available to BMS members at the moment. Do you have a link or anything that could be printed off for members to take to their GPs or was this on Twitter - or maybe you were there in person  ;) !!

Hurdity x
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CLKD

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Re: Women’s health update vagifem BMS twice a week not enough.
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2019, 08:18:28 PM »

It's enough to tell medical practitioners without needing it in writing, they should by now know!

We've known for years that some ladies need treatment more often than recommended by NICE  :bang:
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Tc

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Re: Women’s health update vagifem BMS twice a week not enough.
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2019, 08:45:10 PM »

Maryjane. Thanks to the work you are doing and my seperate contact with Womens Health Concern I felt able to challenge my gynae' s  prescription of once a week vagifem but as  someone who has been diagnosed after physical exam by gynae and still can only get vagifem twice week on  prescription.despite the fact that is not enough to control symptoms I very much welcome this new information.

Thank you for sharing
Xx
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CLKD

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Re: Women’s health update vagifem BMS twice a week not enough.
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2019, 08:47:53 PM »

Tc - that really isn't good enough! Let us know how you get on?
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Tc

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Re: Women’s health update vagifem BMS twice a week not enough.
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2019, 09:39:15 PM »

I will CLKD. Thank you xxx
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Maryjane

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Re: Women’s health update vagifem BMS twice a week not enough.
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2019, 06:27:58 AM »

Hurdity I have a picture on my FB page of a slide that was put up by DR Reneee who was at the lecture.

I have no idea how to post a picture here. Or as you are on twitter go to Dr Renees tweets & you will see the discussion there & slide. 😊

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Re: Women’s health update vagifem BMS twice a week not enough.
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2019, 09:52:57 AM »

Thanks huridty, I've copied and pasted it to my notes and will show it to my drs next week, so fingers cross I can use it more. Don't know you Facebook page so unable to see more details.
Thanks again
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