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Kathleen

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Re: Secrets
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2018, 06:09:49 PM »

Hello ladies.

I have been very honest with my friends and family about how the meno has made me feel but I recognise that my constant moaning can be hard them,  especially my husband.

I saw myself as a kind and forgiving person but  post meno I'm more irritable and impatient. I understand that oestrogen is the nurturing hormone so perhaps my character reflected my previous abundance of the stuff !  I've read that we behave more like males as oestrogen declines and androgens have a greater influence and when testosterone declines in men they become softer and more caring.  I am definitely more feisty these days and my husband is a lot more patient and less driven than he was.

I don't think that I can do secrets, even if I wanted to, unfortunately my face gives too much away!

Take care ladies.

K.
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jillydoll

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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2018, 06:13:20 PM »

Yeah Roseneath,
I totally agree, that having more time to think and digress can make the anxiety's worse, defo.
I've often thought, what the hell have you ever done with your life, why didn't you do this or that,
become this, or that, took that opportunity when it came knocking, BUT, we forget that at that particular time, we were probably happy in our lives, otherwise disposed with nappies, kids, grandparents knocking every day, hubbys working and never seemingly at home with us, money,
everyday living, oh the list goes on, and on...
What's important is that we were happy, (well, most of the time anyway) was contented , and felt needed. I think feeling needed is a critical thing, we are needed with our children, then they grow up and leave, and that leaves us gutted, at a loss, then meno hits and it's tits up from there, but what we've got to remember is that it's our lives, why look back and have regrets, what's done is done,
there's NO going back, we've just got to make sure our future is how we want it to go, stop looking back, it's no use, only drags you down, if you've got regrets, make things better now, take that leap,and tell your OHs your secrets, you know him, will he be able to take it, only you will know that,
If not keep them to yourself, BUT don't beat yourself up over it, keep them forever, or share them,
it's your call...
I might add, if your secrets are bad, like disrupting your life, then you really should talk and tell ‘someone' . If not your OHs, then someone else, trouble is with that kind of secret they can eat you alive, so talking will release them, make you feel better. Then you can start to move on. Good luck..
My god, I can really go on sometimes can't I..?  Sorry.....lol........xx
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CLKD

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Re: Secrets
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2018, 09:17:31 PM »

You go on as much as you want, we can all filter  ;)

Our family was full of secrets, side ways looks, whispering.  "Be seen not heard".  Enabled me to listen, a lot  :-\.  After Dad died in 2006 I learned a lot more about family dynamics which explained a lot of how I have grown up with intense anxiety  :'(
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jillydoll

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Re: Secrets
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2018, 04:28:25 PM »

Like they say,
It all comes out in the end...
Sometimes it takes years n years, but eventually secrets don't stay
secrets anymore...
It's how we handle them that's the secret....
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CLKD

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Re: Secrets
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2018, 06:02:38 PM »

 :thankyou:
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Dancing Queen

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Re: Secrets
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2018, 10:34:55 AM »

I can`t tell my OH my big secret because... basically I don`t want to be with him any more. But I can`t leave. He`s 20 years older than me, completely reliant on me financially and emotionally - I feel more like his carer than partner. But I knew what I was getting into 25 years ago when we got together, you just don`t think at 30 and 50 that the age gap is going to matter that much - it certainly does at 55 and 75! The last few months of my few years of peri have been horrendous, it`s like all the emotions I haven`t acknowledged have come flooding to the surface and I`ve got that life`s passing my by feeling. A brief affair, a months unpaid leave from work to do my thing.. it`s all gone on for me. Hoping now I`m on HRT my manic mental state will settle a little - I`m not bursting into tears half a dozen times a day any more for starters. Luckily I have a best friend who I can tell my secrets to - 5 years younger than me she is just starting peri so has it alllll to come!  xx
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Roseneath

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Re: Secrets
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2018, 10:40:27 AM »

Family has a lot to answer for anxiety in later life I think. I was ' taught' not to talk about things and that emotion was ' weak' or just not done. After 10 a hug or any affection at all was out of the question although I never wanted for material things.  There was never any raised voices but the silence of things not said or noticed dealt the long term damage I think. As I child I found I just looked forward and got on with the day to day. Now with my own kids I wonder how any parent could treat a child so coldly over a sustained period. Even now I am waiting for that little drop of kindness or praise. I can't accept it will never come.
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Roseneath

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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2018, 10:50:31 AM »

Sorry Dancing Queen I think our posts crossed at the same time. You are right about not thinking ahead but then I think we would probably make the same decisions at the time anyway. When in the throws of new love, even for the first  7 years or so, the ' future' seems a distant land. What attracted me to my DH in my 20s hasn't necessarily translated into what I feel I need now (he would probably say the same). We all change and marriage is hard work. I have a pal who I thought had the perfect marriage in every way, her husband would do such romantic things for her, they seemed so besotted with each other.  Turned out he was seeing her boss on the side for six months and left her and the young family. Appreciate every day. Smell the roses. Try and find happiness in little things. Easy right?!
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CLKD

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Re: Secrets
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2018, 11:59:22 AM »

Dancing Queen - how would you feel if he dropped dead?  You don't have to tell anyone, but your gut reaction may point you to a 'way' of coping without becoming distressed.  Also, do look at what agencies are available, AgeUK have good booklets with lots of ideas, is he 'old' in his outlook?  Maybe a separate thread so that we can throw ideas and support at you ;-)
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Dancing Queen

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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2018, 01:25:44 PM »

You`re both right, often the marriages which look the most perfect are often the ones that fall apart the quickest. And yes I would miss him if he was gone for good. Luckily he doesn`t mind me going out with my friends my age dancing all night ( jive dancing is my greatest feelgood activity) so as long as I can still do fun things as well as keep him happy with sedate activities I can strike a balance. I guess I just miss sex and excitement but that`s another can of worms lol xx
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CLKD

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Re: Secrets
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2018, 04:35:13 PM »

Open a thread?

When you return after your nights out is he happy to listen or does it make him feel envious?  Is he able to get and about?  What hobbies does he have?  AgeUK have a befriender service in some places or is there a group that he could join in with?
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Dancing Queen

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Re: Secrets
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2018, 04:50:52 PM »

Hi CLKD, Apart from back problems and a bit of arthritis he`s actually fine at getting out and about. He`s happy pottering in the garden, that`s his main hobby. But he`s lost his confidence driving a bit so won`t go far without me. Also his memory isn`t too wonderful so he wouldn`t go to new places alone. He totally doesn`t want to get involved with people his own age lol so I guess being around us "youngsters" at least keeps him active. He`s ok with me telling him about my nights out as long as I don`t drag him along and make him go clubbing! Perhaps I will start a new thread and see if anyone else has had this sort of situation. 
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jillydoll

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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2018, 05:05:42 PM »

I think when we get to ‘this age' when hormones start playing us up,
the way we used to think changes, dramatically.!!
When I was going through some bad stuff, a few years ago, it was like I didn't want
to be around my OH anymore, everything he did got on my nerves, I almost didn't like him anymore, let alone love him. Why, I don't know.
We've been together since we were 17. And I can honestly say, all he's EVER done is look after me, done and gave me everything I've ever wanted, within reason, and truly love me.
So why did I feel like this? It was as if I was ungrateful, and as for my thoughts, they honestly would never come out, they were that bad about him.
I'm not like that anymore, I'm glad to say, that's all passed, and I never want to go back there, because I do love him, with all my heart, and now often wonder what I'd do without him, he certainly didn't deserve all that, what was going on with me. Poor sod. Lol
So , I think, Dancing Queen, maybe it's how your peri is affecting you at the moment.
And in another few months or so, when things settle down (however long it is) your way of thinking could change again. I'm only saying, because mine did, and I'm so, so, glad I never told him any of that, or even worse, broke us up, that would have been madness on my behalf.....
I did tell him some things, about other people in our lives like I said on another post, but not so much about him. That would have been terrible, and now looking back, I'm glad I didn't.
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Dancing Queen

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Re: Secrets
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2018, 09:25:24 AM »

Hi Jillydoll, Yes I`m sure it is partly due to hormones which suddenly make a relationship which was ok before suddenly seem dissatisfying. We are like housemates really, there`s not a lot of affection there and certainly no passion! And the difference is that I`m the one doing all the supporting and providing for so sometimes I think it would be nice for someone to look after me for once. But I guess a lot of people have that with parents and children as dependents, you can`t just chuck them aside when you`ve had enough!  We`re not even married but I wouldn`t up and leave him even so.   
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CLKD

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Re: Secrets
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2018, 11:59:49 AM »

So introduce some affection?  Has he turned smelly etc. if so it would be more difficult  ;).  A gentle ruffle of the hair, a tap on the shoulder, making a cuppa B4 he asks ...........
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