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[Sarah2]

Hi Taz

Is it worth thinking about seeing anyone else ( maybe privately even?) if you are not happy?
The risk of transdermal HRT is very very low- in fact all the info I have read ( papers not general web-blurb) says there is no increase in blood clots with transdermal HRT .
I wonder if the drs are not differentiating between these two types re. your op?

[Taz2]

Sorry - forgot to say - you are so kind with your patches offer but I would be stressed over the blood clot situation. Having seen what my friend's mum has gone through this past week I definitely don't want one! Doc also said that if I was on HRT and this caused a clot then I wouldn't be able to have it again under any circumstances whereas if I really can't cope without it after the hyster and I avoid a clot then there is still a possibility that I could restart it.

Taz x

[Hurdity]

Gosh Taz what a lot to think about!

It's amazing how quickly the HRT works and the changes it makes to your body. At least you have had a small reprieve from the symptoms.

Re Vit D - is it possible to go out into the sunshine a little - I do think it really makes a difference? Having had a lot of sunshine recently, I feel totally different to how I felt 6 weeks ago and wonder if it would help you generally despite your aversion? Even dappled sunlight in woodlands I am sure would be beneficial and I know you like birds!

Anway I hope you manage to survive the rest of the term until your op and that the flushes take a while to return....and what an amazing GP!

Hurdity x

[Rowan]

Think your GP is very wise to be cautious Taz, and once you are up and healing you can reconsider estrogen.

Here is some info, if you scroll down you will see patches are on the list of cautions.

You GP sounds great and it looks as if she practices holistically.

http://www.clotconnect.org/about-clot-connect/news/march-is-dvt-awareness-month

[Limpy]

Taz your GP sounds absolutely amazing.
It's good that she hasn't written HRT of for you for ever.

Will you be going outside soaking up the sun, or getting the spray your doctor mentioned to boost your Vitamin D levels?

Hope everything goes well with the tailing off of HRT (again) and the Op itself when it happens.

[Taz2]

Thanks ladies.

SL - that link is really interesting. I have had some info re blood clots as my mum had a couple of DVT's when she was in her sixties - not on HRT.

I can't see me soaking up the sun Limpy although I have been trying to go out in it more since my friend mentioned vit D. When I was young I used to love sunny days so I have been asked by my doc to try to retrace  my past and work out when I began to love the dark days of winter more than the sunny days of summer. We should all like bits of each season.

She does practice holistically but as it's a private practice she's not allowed to actually mention it during our NHS consultations. Now I've asked her what she does on her "days off" (she only works as a GP two days a week) she has told me and I suppose that if I ask her for details and costs she is now allowed to tell me. My last GP at the same practice was a homeopathist and I really miss him. She inherited all of his books when he died a few years ago now of thyroid cancer. We were the same age - he was one in a million!

Taz x

[Rowan]

Forgot to add Taz that they had me up and in a salt bath the next day, no dressing, you will be encouraged to walk, I even walked out of the ward and along the corridor for exercise, with lady who was in the bed next to me, we found a side door that opened into a patch of grass and a seat, so we use to sit there for a while before going back to the ward.

I have the spray vitamin D3 (Jan De Vries) its lasts for  over a month.

[coolatlast]

Good for you Taz!   
I don't know why Doctors insist on trying to get women off HRT at the age of 60 anyway.
If it aint broke don't fix it.

when I reach 60, I am going to put up a HUGE fight if they try and take my HRT away!   They will have to drag me kicking and screaming out of the surgery.

Interesting to note that Most Gynaecologists are in favour of HRT, and its mainly the GP's that are so ANTI it.

Is there a hidden agenda with the NHS?    Cost?  Fear of being sued if you get ill?   What?

I (and I expect many other women) would gladly sign a disclaimer if it meant we could stay on HRT for longer.

[coolatlast]

Hi Taz

Your suffering sounds awful.
I think your doctor was cruel to take you off HRT and make your prolapse worse so that you have to have a hysterectomy.
I think you should get some sort of redress for that.

My doctor said I would have to come off HRT eventually, but I said I am not coming off it if I still need it. She said I won't get to choose, I will be taken off it.

Hopefully, by then, I hope my doctor willl have updated herself on menopause related issues, because, I am sure, she must see other women who are going through much worse meno symptoms than me.
Hell, she may even have retired by then.

Dandelion - You think the same as me!    We MUST start sticking up for ourselves!  It will hopefully push the doctors into keeping updated with current thinking - instead of blindly following outdated 'guidelines'  -  like a load of sheep.

[Rowan]

This was posted on my facebook by MM this morning

http://www.menopausematters.co.uk/newsitem.php?recordID=153%2FSecond-day-highlights-from-the-International-Menopause-Society-conference-2014

[Taz2]

Hi coolatlast - welcome to the forum.

Have you had a bad experience yourself? Perhaps you would like to tell us a bit more about your own circumstances?

Dandelion - I didn't see it as cruel but part of my reaching 60 and this view is shared by GP, Meno clinic specialist and my gynaecologist. There is little research it seems to me on how women over 60 are affected by continued use of HRT which is a shame. The stroke risk is what has been mentioned to me most often although this really ramps up once you get to 70. I'm not sure why 60 is the magic number but you will find it on quite a few medications too. "not to be used by people over 60" and "use with caution in people over 60". I would have needed a hyster eventually and had put it off for two years. The HRT made it more comfy but in no way cured it. All in all they are just looking out for me.

Taz 

[Rowan]

Doctors take an oath and part of it is "First do know harm" I am sure most doctors take into account their patients health and history and have their best interests at heart.

I don't think demanding anything from our doctors will work and its not a good idea to encourage on MM, that's the best way to get their back up, after all they do study for seven years to become Doctors.

It's best to discuss things in a reasonable manner you will come across as confident knowledgeable and far more likely be listened too.

[honeybun]

I agree SL.

Getting someone's back up by being aggressive is never a good way to go.


Honeyb
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[sweettooth]

Taz, i suppose if there is a family history they have to cautious.  i know that i didnt have to come off hrt when i had my hyster but i was 46 at the time. I then had my ovaries out age 49 still on estrogen, i remember they gave me an injection in my stomach to stop clots and i was wearing these sexy stretch stockings in bed, dont know how the doctors managed to stay away

Hurdity thank you for your reply to an old post which i only read earlier, i have increased to 50mcg and shall wait and see what happens x
   

[coolatlast]

I agree SL.

Getting someone's back up by being aggressive is never a good way to go.


Honeyb
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But it's okay to be passive aggressive 

coolatlast
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