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Soap and water is better Penny (if available) - the antiseptic hand washes don't fight bugs such as C.Dif and the noro virus which you find lurking in toilets..CLKD - if you go to gigs like I do where the age restriction is over 18 and visit the toilets you will appreciate that a lot of the parents who should be "clearing up" after their kids are actually the ones doing it! We had a visit from the local authority hygiene team at our school and they were trying to spread the word that handwashes and sprays are not as effective as soaps. Also, the antibacterial soaps used by everyone nowadays have meant the germs are getting immune to them. Warm water and soap for washing hands front and back and up over the wrist area. It was quite an eye opener.Taz