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Floral

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Thyroid concern or meno?
« on: October 22, 2023, 12:03:41 PM »

Dear ladies

Medichecks May past my Free thyroxine was 11.6
My TSH was fine 2.79
My T3 was ok at 4

They said to get checked due course with GP again which I did, but they only do TSH which was fine.

Anyone have any experience?  Thank you!
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Floral

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Re: Thyroid concern or meno?
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2023, 12:07:02 PM »

I’m sorry ladies but my anxiety is awful today and I’m so worried about everything🙁
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SarahT

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Re: Thyroid concern or meno?
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2023, 02:08:49 PM »

Hello Floral,

Despite having an under active thyroid myself I am rubbish at interpreting results. Hopefully someone will be able to shed some light on this for you.
In the meantime perhaps type thyroid into the search, as there are many women on here with thyroid problems and some are able to give very informative understanding on this.
and I do understand the anxiety you have, again, sadly many of us suffer with this to varying degrees. You aren't alone in this however crap you feel. There is help for anxiety of you feel you need extra support
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CLKD

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Re: Thyroid concern or meno?
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2023, 02:15:09 PM »

I understand that, even if patients continue to complain of thyroid symptoms, if blood tests are 'within normal limits', GPs are reluctant to do further tests  :-\
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Wrensong

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Re: Thyroid concern or meno?
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2023, 03:06:17 PM »

Hi Floral, can you tell us specifically what's worrying you about your thyroid tests?  Would be good to have the ref ranges for the May results you've given & your latest too  :)  At first glance they look OK.
Wx
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Peanut31

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Re: Thyroid concern or meno?
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2023, 08:49:47 PM »

Hi

Have you got the lab ranges?

I suffer from an underactive thyroid and Hashimotos, so I totally understand how your feeling.

There are several good thyroid forums that can offer you advice one being HealthUnlocked join the thyroid forum.

They helped me no end on my thyroid journey.

Best wishes
« Last Edit: October 22, 2023, 08:55:52 PM by Peanut31 »
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Smorzando

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Re: Thyroid concern or meno?
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2023, 11:01:38 AM »

Hi Floral, I would second the suggestion above to join the Thyroid UK forum on HealthUnlocked, they are extremely helpful.

I personally think your TSH is too high, the typical healthy result is around 1 - 1.5. It is important to test around 9am as this is when TSH is highest and it drops throughout the day. Are there others with thyroid disease in your family? It would also be worth having your TPO and TG antibodies tested to show if there is autoimmune disease going on.

I think your T4 is below range on Medichecks so this is a big red flag in my mind. Have you mentioned this to your GP?

Many people resort to private testing to get answers as the NHS is awful at diagnosing and treating thyroid disease (myself included!)
Also have a look at the Thyroid UK website.
Good luck  :)
« Last Edit: October 23, 2023, 11:03:38 AM by Smorzando »
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Floral

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Re: Thyroid concern or meno?
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2023, 11:19:33 AM »

Hi ladies and thank you!
Wrengsong tbh I was so anx yesterday that I started wondering if my current symptoms could be thyroid but deep down I don’t think so.  My latest TSH from GP was fine.  Back in May my free Thyroxine was slightly under but apparently this can happen.  I am having awful sweats and palpitations/racing heart which waken me, iv no energy and feel v down and anxious.  My menopause specialist has changed me to patch but just on that over 2 weeks so too early to judge.  Covid last year had a big impact on my hrt and iv struggled on &!off since.
Peanut lab ranges were
TSH 0.27-4.2 (mine 2.79)
Free T3 3.1-6.8 (mine 4)pmol/L
Free T 12-22 ( 11.6) so just under
I asked GP to test the free T again but they just do TSH and thst again was fine not long ago.  I don’t think it’s that.  Sorry to hear you have all that going on.
I feel my estrogen & T just crashed a few weeks ago, I hadn’t felt good for few weeks and then I just literally went down full stop!
Tk you CLKD and Sarah T
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Peanut31

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Re: Thyroid concern or meno?
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2023, 11:40:30 AM »

Hi

With reference your thyroid issues, one thing I see straight away from your results are, your T4 results are too low, this will be causing anxiety, T3 results are not great either causing tiredness.

TSH results are not great, but until your TSH results hit 10 or above your GP will not treat you with thyroid medication, unless,  you have a GP that listens to there patient, rather than the NHS guidelines.

NHS goes by TSH results alone, which is not how thyroid patients should be treated.

Are you on any thyroid medication at all?.

It has already been mentioned you need to check your antibodies, I have Hashimoto’s and I managed to get the results lower by changing my diet.

If you can afford it, private blood testing is good, I use Medichecks, you can do a finger **** test at home and then send it to the lab.

You can ask for a GP to comment on your results, or get the results quicker by no comment.

Then post them on the thyroid forum for help. I would also suggest getting your vitamins tested too, this is something the thyroid forum would suggest as well.

I have my thyroid issues under control now, from gaining advice from thyroid forums, and making life style changes. I take levo and also NDT for my thyroid.

One thing I want to stress is the GP’s do not always know what is best, especially thyroid.

I say this from my own thyroid experience.

Good luck

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Smorzando

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Re: Thyroid concern or meno?
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2023, 12:05:19 PM »

Echoing what Peanut said.

Your T4 is below range and this is not normal. In fact, it’s the very definition of hypothyroid - low thyroid hormones!

Your TSH is a pituitary hormone and it is not accurately reflecting your low T4. This could be a pituitary problem - look up “central hypothyroidism “ and “Sheehans Syndrome”.

Symptoms can very much overlap with menopausal symptoms.

I wish you well, my thyroid problems were dismissed for many years due to a “normal” TSH (ie, within range) and I had around a decade of needless suffering because of this.
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Floral

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Re: Thyroid concern or meno?
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2023, 12:13:21 PM »

Thanks so much ladies!  Who is best to look at this and most importantly treat it? Tk u
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Smorzando

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Re: Thyroid concern or meno?
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2023, 12:26:57 PM »

Floral, I would first suggest getting full testing which you may need to do privately - you’ve already used Medichecks but check Thyroid UK website for more options plus discount codes.

Please remember to do thyroid tests first thing, ideally around 9am, and preferably fasting.

If your TSH is still within range, you will have difficulty getting the NHS to diagnose and treat but it is not impossible. Thyroid UK hold a list of endocrinologists with an interest in thyroid disease which might be helpful.

If you speak to your GP please stress that your T4 was below range and you would like it retested. And emphasise your symptoms - I think too many doctors just look at numbers and forget to ask how the patient is feeling!

I would also urge you again to check out the HealthUnlocked Thyroid forum as it a very active forum where the help is invaluable, speaking from personal experience.


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Floral

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Re: Thyroid concern or meno?
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2023, 01:17:19 PM »

Smorzando thank you so much for the great info!
Randox which is near me do tests
They are for Free T4, T3, Anti TG and Anti TPO
Ladies would these tests be all that’s initially needed? Tks
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Smorzando

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Re: Thyroid concern or meno?
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2023, 01:34:09 PM »

For full testing it is often recommend to also test Ferritin, Folate, B12 and Vit D, along with the ones you’ve mentioned (I assume the test would also include TSH?).

I don’t know much about Randox although I’ve heard the name.

If you are able to do at-home testing, you could look at  Monitor My Health which is actually an NHS run lab in Exeter which offers private testing at reasonable prices? I find it’s harder for your GP to dismiss these results as they’ve been done in an NHS lab. Thyroid UK offer a discount code for these tests.
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Re: Thyroid concern or meno?
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2023, 01:36:25 PM »

Randox used to do all the paid for Covid testing for travel abroad etc.
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