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Floral

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Symptoms reassurance please
« on: October 16, 2023, 03:35:05 PM »

Hi Ladies,

I have a lot of distressing symptoms this past 2 years but I just wanted to ask ‘is waking up several times with sweats and palpitations a sign of low estrogen?  I don’t think it can be too much??  Some mornings when I wake my heart just races so badly, it’s horrid.  I had a total hysterectomy years ago perhaps this makes it harder? I don’t know.

I was on 2mg tablet estrogen only and have been changed to 75 patch a week ago to try to help with getting things under control.  I know it’s too early to say how this will go but I just wanted a little of your experience perhaps?

My moods & anx are the worst, I can feel the fluctuations.  I thought at 60 things would be easier but they’re worse. 

On tablet my shbg was v high at 200!
My free testosterone was 0.04.

Tk you all x


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Charleyfarley

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Re: Symptoms reassurance please
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2023, 03:45:49 PM »

Hi Floral

I’m 45 and very early into my peri journey but I have experienced the debilitating anxiety, mood swings and all of the lovely add ons.

When I saw you’re age I remember my mum talking about this. She would wake up with palpatations and out of nowhere experience the worst anxiety. In fact I’d say, at the same age as you are now, palpitations were the worst part for my mum. Hopefully that might reassure you a little xx
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sheila99

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Re: Symptoms reassurance please
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2023, 04:37:37 PM »

Palpitations and anxiety can be from too much as well as too little, flushes are too little. I'm not certain about dosages but isn't 2mg oral equivalent to 100 patch? And of course you may absorb transdermal differently.
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CLKD

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Re: Symptoms reassurance please
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2023, 05:51:58 PM »

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Floral

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Re: Symptoms reassurance please
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2023, 06:12:26 PM »

Thank you all for your support.  I’ve had an awful day, feeling I can’t go on but it will lift.
Sheila I was going over all this in my mind, I dropped to 50 patch and had crazy flushes plus felt so low.  I keep wakening with bad sweats surely this can’t be too much?  My moods swing badly and it scares me.
I was prescribed 100 patch but I felt it too much so I’ve decided to stick with 75 and then hopefully increase if need be.  My specialist mentioned vaccine and covid which put my body in turmoil so we are hoping changing regime might push through. I am worried incase this has affected my bodys ability to balance.
Jaypo you get this, why is this the case?!!
I get these surges of fluctuations that are scary.
Charley did your mum have hrt?  How awful for her.
CLKD Tk you 👋🏻
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CLKD

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Re: Symptoms reassurance please
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2023, 06:54:37 PM »

R U able to cut the patches ?
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joziel

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Re: Symptoms reassurance please
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2023, 09:03:26 PM »

If you had a total hysterectomy you won't be getting any estrogen from your own body so you should ask your doctor to check your estrogen levels.

My Newson dr says most women feel best/symptom free when estrogen is between 400-600pmol but that some women really do need it to be 1000pmol before they feel better. So if your result comes back lower than 400, you likely need more.

Or you can just trial 100mcg patch and see if that helps. I'd say those symptoms def sound like low estrogen to me...
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Floral

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Re: Symptoms reassurance please
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2023, 09:37:47 PM »

Joziel thank you.  I have only been on this 75 patch a week, I’ve to get bloods done in 5 weeks, I’m too scared to increase to 100 just yet.  It does def appear to be low E. 
Does anyone know if the patch takes a while to build up? 
CLKD don’t want to reduce as I’ve tried 50 and was worse.  I guess I need to ride this out in hope I get my levels up to relieve me x
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joziel

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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2023, 10:17:16 PM »

Oh right then yes you need to be patient. I was told at a bare minimum 4-6wks at each dose before increasing. But whatever your bloods show you, you should still increase if you still have symptoms then. Different women have symptoms at different blood levels of estrogen so once you make sure you are above some terribly low amount, you should increase as needed to treat symptoms...
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Hurdity

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Re: Symptoms reassurance please
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2023, 08:03:40 AM »

Hi Floral

Just to check whether you have had other tests eg thyroid function just to rule that out as a cause (or other causes) for your symptoms eg racing heart? Sometimes there are other causes for night sweats alrhough this combined with palpitations often points to insufficient oestrogen. a 2 mg tablet is only a medium dose so I would persevere with slowly increasing the patch as you have been advised by doc. In terms of sweats, if low oestrogen is the cause you should feel the benefits of an increase in a couple of weeks.

Also did you keep your ovaries when you had a total hyster, or were they removed at the same time? If the latter then this does make things a bit more difficult and you may need testosterone too if your sex drive is also low?

All the best in alleviating your symptoms

Hurdity x
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CLKD

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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2023, 09:01:42 AM »

Sorry again I wasn't clear  >:(.  I know what I mean but brain doesn't reach fingers : I wondered whether the usual patch plus adding 1 that has been cut 1 in half might help?

Let us know how you get on.
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pastie supper

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Re: Symptoms reassurance please
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2023, 09:05:14 AM »

I couldn't get relief from night sweats and morning flushes on patches at all, I tried three types.

They helped the anxiety and some minor niggles, but the overheating stayed until I ditched the patches and got oestrogel.

I had no idea I was one of the people who don't absorb from patches because I was getting some good effects from it.

Now I've oestrogel, I understand the effects I was supposed to get the whole time.
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Floral

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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2023, 09:19:14 AM »

You are all so kind ladies I’m so grateful for your support.
Kept wakening during night, so anxious this morning and even hot flushes, my patch change is due tomorrow so I’m going up to the 100 patch as per specialist, I’m nervous as I’m so sensitive.  Can’t be on my own and that’s just not me it’s crazy what hormones can do.
CLKD I will just be using the 100 instead of 75 which isn’t a huge jump so 🤞🤞
Hurdity I had fsh thyroid checked all ok and yes ovaries gone.
Joziel I’m afraid of this getting worse if I wait to increase to 100 and the specialist switched me to 100 so I may try that.  She said this was equivalent to 2mg, it also says this on balance app. 
I will let u all know how it goes X
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Floral

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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2023, 09:22:16 AM »

Pastie thank you, gel will be my next option if these don’t work!  I’m glad you found a solution x
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joziel

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Re: Symptoms reassurance please
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2023, 10:56:20 AM »

I also was switched to gel after not absorbing gel. Unfortunately it looks like I'm a rubbish absorber of gel as well  ;D ;D
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