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MiriamT

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VA worse
« on: May 22, 2023, 04:24:13 PM »

Hi all,
Thanks to lots of advice I have now been using estriol every night and some yes moisturiser.
I'm on 50mg patches and progesterone for two weeks on and two weeks off.

My VA seemed to ease but the last few days it's really been bad and I feel I need a wee most of the day 😭 do you think I need to push to see urinary/gyni consult? It's getting me down now as reduced my alcohol and tea consumption and couldn't really eat any healthier? If I'm honest it's seems to have got worse since starting hrt is this possibly?
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Flossieteacake

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Re: VA worse
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2023, 05:20:29 PM »

Ultrogestan can irritate the bladder so if you are using that then it could explain your symptoms.
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MiriamT

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Re: VA worse
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2023, 05:33:50 PM »

Is there any alternative?
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Flossieteacake

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Re: VA worse
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2023, 05:50:25 PM »

Is there any alternative?
There are quite a few. Provera, 2 Destrogestal pills which are also known as the mini pill, mirena coil and combined patches. I think there are others too.

Sorry to hear you have had this reaction. It is the last thing you need after the VA flare.

In the two week break do you feel any better? If so it could be the ultrogestan.
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MiriamT

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Re: VA worse
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2023, 06:04:03 PM »

It's certainly very testing! I'm on the break now, I start again on Saturday? I just feel it's all got worse in the last 6 months since starting hrt, I used to have the odd problem before but nothing like this 😭
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Flossieteacake

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Re: VA worse
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2023, 07:05:18 PM »

It's certainly very testing! I'm on the break now, I start again on Saturday? I just feel it's all got worse in the last 6 months since starting hrt, I used to have the odd problem before but nothing like this 😭

Have you been on Ultrogestan for 6 months? If so then perhaps that is the cause. I understand how horrible it is. It really can make you feel fed up.
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MiriamT

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Re: VA worse
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2023, 08:13:53 PM »

Yes, two weeks on and two weeks off, 50mg patches twice weekly, estriol every night ATM. Testosterone eas well for the last three months
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Flossieteacake

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Re: VA worse
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2023, 08:15:23 PM »

Yes, two weeks on and two weeks off, 50mg patches twice weekly, estriol every night ATM. Testosterone eas well for the last three months

I remember you were thinking of asking to try a different progesterone. Perhaps that would be an idea. Hopefully you can get an appointment to discuss this with your GP soon.
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CLKD

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Re: VA worse
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2023, 08:43:56 AM »

Don't C a gynae as they often don't know much about HRT!

What do U use for vaginal atrophy? 
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MiriamT

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Re: VA worse
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2023, 12:35:09 PM »

I use estriol daily at night, that's all, what would you recommend?
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CLKD

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Re: VA worse
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2023, 02:52:35 PM »

It has a steroid in it.  Not something that I would want on my vulval area  :-\

Have U tried 'vagifem' or 'ovestin' used singly or together ?  Available from the GP.
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Ayesha

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Re: VA worse
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2023, 03:10:11 PM »

Not to confuse matters but isn't Ovestin and Estriol the same thing?

Have you given Vagifem a try, or both treatments together alongside the moisturiser.
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MiriamT

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Re: VA worse
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2023, 03:26:53 PM »

Vagifem is the tablet right? Yes I did try that but not as well as estriol, I thought ovestim was the same as estriol? Does it have steroid??
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MiriamT

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Re: VA worse
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2023, 03:35:15 PM »

I just looked at the ingredients of estriol and no steroid that I can see
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Flossieteacake

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Re: VA worse
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2023, 03:42:12 PM »

Estriol is milder than Ovestin. Some women find it more tolerable if they have sensitivities to medication but for others it may not be strong enough.
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