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[Kingfisher]

Hi ladies
My first post.

I've tried utrogestan every which way.  I just wondered if anyone has taken it cyclically using both routes orally and vaginally at same time, to shorten the dose each route and therefore mitigate the side effects?

I've tried:
- 100mg orally 25/28 days pm, made me way too tired after second month (also vivid dreams).
- 200mg 2 weeks orally 3 month long cycle, constipation/piles (never again!).
- 200mg 2 weeks vaginally 3 month long cycle. Currently on this regime, so fed up with doing this for a whole 2 weeks, want a change!

I'm suggesting:
- 100mg 2 weeks orally with 200mg one week vaginally. I think I could handle that.

I just changed to oestrogel from sandrena, but this post is not really about that. I want to up oestrogel dose from 2 pumps to 3, but my private dr said I would then need to up the dose of utrogestan, which I dont really want. I'm also on vagifem.

[Zara69]

I cannot tolerate utrogestan orally or vaginally so use 100mcg rectally every night under the guidance of a menopause specialist…absolutely no side effects at all this way

[Katie7800]

I cannot tolerate utrogestan orally or vaginally so use 100mcg rectally every night under the guidance of a menopause specialist…absolutely no side effects at all this way

Just out of interest, do you have regular periods this way? Do you get any period pain?

[Zara69]

Hi I’ve had an ablation years ago age 46 I’m 53 now and never bled since on any regime. No pain at all

[Kingfisher]

I cannot tolerate utrogestan orally or vaginally so use 100mcg rectally every night under the guidance of a menopause specialist…absolutely no side effects at all this way

Thanks for your message. I guess I havent tried it every which way then 

[Losingtheplot]

I cannot tolerate utrogestan orally or vaginally so use 100mcg rectally every night under the guidance of a menopause specialist…absolutely no side effects at all this way

Hey hunni I too suffer gastric issues on Utrogestan if taken orally I am to try vaginally next and did wonder about the anal route too.
Do you use anything in particular to insert it this way sorry I hope you don't mind me asking as if I can't tolerate it vaginally this will be my next method

[discogirl]

I cannot tolerate utrogestan orally or vaginally so use 100mcg rectally every night under the guidance of a menopause specialist…absolutely no side effects at all this way

hi Zara69

I did not know ypu could use the utro anally. i use it vaginally to lessen side effects.

do you take it anally at night x

[sheila99]

Have you tried any other progestogens? I know utro is supposed to be the best because it's body identical but it makes me dopey too whereas the norethisterone in evorel had no side effects. Some people who have trouble with utro find they're OK with cyclogest or provera. Do you have scans so you know your lining isn't building up? I use a 6 week cycle but not sure I'd risk 3 months.

[discogirl]

hi sheila99

sorry to cut in

when i use utro vaginally even at night it affects my sleep.

i am trialling using vaginally during the day but i wondered about how long it takes to be absorbed. the only info ive found from besins is for using utro vaginally as fertility treatment vaginally.

are you post meno sheila99 and can i ask how you use a 6wk cycle uf post meno.

thanks xx

[sheila99]

Hi discogirl, I think I may be a bit odd because vaginal utro makes my sleep worse but orally it improves it. Both ways make me dopey in the day though. Probably post meno, still have symptoms of a cycle but without oestrogen perhaps not enough for a bleed. I've alway had a 6 week cycle so have continued with it, I'd rather bleed than be permanently half asleep. I use 200mgx12 days per 6 weeks instead of 4. I haven't found any good evidence for how long it takes to be absorbed but as you say if used for ivf you take it during the day so presumably most of it is absorbed even if you're vertical. How do you find using it in the day? I may try rectally next time but can't say I'm very keen on the idea.

[discogirl]

hi sheila99

it doesnt affect me. it doesnt make me dozey. well, no more than i am naturally!!

im not too on rectally either.

hope you're keeping ok xx

[Zara69]

Well..progesterone can be used rectally for fertility so because I had so many problems with utro orally and vaginally I asked my meno specialist if I could try cyclogest or lutigest rectally. She said to just use the utro and see how I got on..the others aren’t licensed for hrt use. I was fine no side effects on evorel sequi with norethisterone but was obsessed with using body identical prog..I might go back to those patches at some point as to put it bluntly I can’t imagine shoving things up my bum when I’m old 😳😂..I use a finger ..an applicator wouldn’t be good as could cause damage..I think a lot is absorbed this way but I don’t have any side effects..I wouldn’t do it without a dr agreeing it. Lots of drugs are used this way in France…we are a bit “anal” about it here lol

[Losingtheplot]

Well..progesterone can be used rectally for fertility so because I had so many problems with utro orally and vaginally I asked my meno specialist if I could try cyclogest or lutigest rectally. She said to just use the utro and see how I got on..the others aren’t licensed for hrt use. I was fine no side effects on evorel sequi with norethisterone but was obsessed with using body identical prog..I might go back to those patches at some point as to put it bluntly I can’t imagine shoving things up my bum when I’m old 😳😂..I use a finger ..an applicator wouldn’t be good as could cause damage..I think a lot is absorbed this way but I don’t have any side effects..I wouldn’t do it without a dr agreeing it. Lots of drugs are used this way in France…we are a bit “anal” about it here lol

Well I guess whichever way works best for you lol. I will try utro orally again as could have been my Ads causing side effects and not the utro. Thanks for the info

[sheila99]

Zara69 how far up do you put in a analy? Does it come out in bed and make a mess like it does vaginally?

[violetbat]

Ooh- I am deffo going to try this rectally. I have been taking it vaginally for about three years and nearly always have to stop the course early as I get horrible womb ache and bladder irritation. They also give me cystic acne. I asked my GP to be put back on norrithisterone, which I can tolerate much better, ironically. She said no because there was a higher risk of blood clots? I didn't know progesterone could cause blood clots?