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Stella2

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Re: TSH level
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2022, 09:36:29 AM »

Thank you ATB.
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joziel

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Re: TSH level
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2022, 09:50:16 AM »

YEs thanks, I find the whole thyroid thing incredibly complicated.
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ATB

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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2022, 09:57:40 AM »

I do too and I’ve done a tonne of research and run a support group! This is why it’s so hard to get good care, doctors also find it too hard!! I know more than my GP!
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Stella2

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Re: TSH level
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2022, 03:28:51 PM »

I looked again and it is free T4 level 16.7 and it's within the range (9-19). It states that the test was for T3&T4 but only specifies result for T4. Serum TSH is 2.1 within the range (0.35+4.94). Antibodies are above the range but the GP said that, because the hormones are within the range, nothing should be done about it. Does this make sense? :o
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ATB

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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2022, 03:55:17 PM »

Hi Stella. Yes your free T4 is just above the halfway on the range, so doesn’t indicate hypothyroidism but knowing the Free T3 is important in itself but also because the relationship between the two tells us something too. With high antibodies but within optimal range numbers you don’t need to medicate but you do need to test regularly, that’s my understanding. Symptoms are also important though. You could also take your daily morning body temperature and monitor that as consistently low body temp usually indicates a hypothyroid state.

https://stopthethyroidmadness.com/hashimotos/
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Marchlove

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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2022, 05:04:43 PM »

Hi Stella

There are some supplements that can help reduce thyroid antibodies, namely vitamin D, zinc and selenium.
Have a Google.
Don’t go too high with the selenium though 100mcg to start and then increase to 200mcg.

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joziel

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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2022, 08:36:22 PM »

With the selenium, you can just eat 3 brazil nuts a day. That's apparently the same as taking a selenium supplement only it tastes better and is probably better absorbed  ;D

So, someone tell me, if we want to test all these thyroid things properly and fully and we can't do that via our regular GP, how do we do it? I can't see any way we can reliably do it ourselves? Is it a Medicheck thing?? The saliva tests don't seem to be accurate going by what I read...
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Marchlove

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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2022, 09:10:56 PM »

The selenium in Brazil nuts is highly variable depending on many factors, in fact it is not unknown for just one to have a high 400mcg.
So advice is to not overdo them.

Yes it would be a Medichecks blood test, full thyroid panel.
You cannot test thyroid function by saliva. X
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joziel

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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2022, 09:12:09 PM »

Oh that's pretty simple then. Can the Medichecks test be the finger **** one? It doesn't need to be venous?
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ATB

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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2022, 09:35:12 PM »

This is the minimum you want, as it covers all necessary thyroid tests

https://medichecks.com/products/thyroid-function-antibodies-blood-test

They also have an advanced one that includes other things like vitamins, iron and inflammation status, this can be finger **** but they include folate and that one thing in the bundle is not as reliable if done by finger **** so they have a blood draw option too.
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joziel

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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2022, 10:34:12 PM »

Great thanks!!
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Stella2

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Re: TSH level
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2022, 08:15:52 AM »

Thank you ATB and all for your comments! :)
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ATB

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« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2022, 10:02:41 AM »

You’re very welcome :) Feel free to message me as well x
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joziel

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« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2022, 10:23:13 AM »

ATB, I did a bit of reading of the links you gave and it seems that low iron can either cause similar issues to thyroid issues or be involved with the thyroid issues.

My ferritin is a bit low at 43ug/l. But it is within the normal range. Can low ferritin which is still within what they consider to be normal, still cause symptoms?

I've been taking Spatone every day but I don't know if it's strong enough to be making much of a difference... I have some other gentle iron tablets to take.

Edited to add, gawd, I think I need to fix my iron levels. I read this (whilst jiggling my restless leg up and down): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5986027/

" If symptoms are in accordance with iron deficiency, the patient should be considered iron deficient at least up to a serum ferritin concentration of 100 μg/L, "
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ATB

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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2022, 10:47:08 AM »

Yeah, I’ve had long-standing ferritin issues since hypothyroidism( not other iron tests which are fine ). Yes, low ferritin, hypothyroidism and menopause all have similar symptoms although over time I’ve developed a way of identifying the differences for me. It is also true that hypothyroidism, untreated or poorly managed, can be the cause of low ferritin due to an issue with something else that I’ve forgotten the name of right now, that may affect the ability to store iron. Even when I had iron infusions I didn’t get my ferritin up much because my thyroid condition wasn’t treated.
In my opinion, based on studies I’ve read and some experts explaining, I don’t think our ferritin needs to be that high at all. There is always, always, conflicting info on this kind of thing, and when I look at studies I try and look at the study design and compare with other studies to figure out what makes sense to me. After years of stressing about my ferritin, after discussing it with the various specialists I’ve seen, I’m happy if I’m between 30-60. I don’t want to be higher than that, lower and I get symptoms. I’ve tried everything anyway and I cannot get it higher than 45 and now I don’t want to. My husband has same diet and lifestyle and his is 110, which actually concerns me and I’m keeping an eye on that.
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