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[Sheri]

Sorry that I've started another post about the same old thing but today, i feel so much pain in my body. Muscle/bone pain, slight chills (no temp) & tired. But think tiredness is more linked to the pain.
For a recap - I've just finished my period & on Monday changed from everol conti back to the estrogen. Was ok on the conti really but since going back on thr estrogen i feel blooming awful.
I'm really tempted to take the patch off to see if it is that.
Nowhere on the leaflet does it say joint pain (unless I'm missing it).
I've taken a covid test just to be sure & it doesn't feel like i have a cold.
Is this normal on HRT or could my body just not like it? I'm on my 5 nearing 6th week. Not sure i can do the whole 3 months only to stop it.
Any advice please?

[Sheri]

Btw, its more like a fluey type ache if that helps

[Nas]

Could you have a virus/cold brewing?
Low vitamin levels?
Thyroid?
Low oestrogen?

X x

[Sheri]

No low vit levels. Get checked regularly.
No obvs virus clues.
I was great until i changed to the estrogen patch Monday & then Monday evening, it hit me. Too much of a coincidence i think.
Can you just stop HRT?
Thyroid - i can't be 100% its not that but I've never suffered with thyroid before. Unless everol sequi can cause thyroid problems so quickly.

[Nas]

Maybe it is the oestrogen then. Usually it is the ‘ feel good ‘ hormone I thought, not the one which makes you feel tired.

The only way to know for sure, is to come off the HRT. If you do stop abruptly, your symptoms may reappear quickly and the body may crash, you will have to see how it goes.

[Sheri]

I don't want to crash 🙄, whatever that means.
Wish i never started HRT now lol.

[Sheri]

Does anyone recommend cutting parches in half & come off slowly? I'm on everol sequi 50
Think my anxiety is going overboard now as I'm worried I've got thyroid problems & doesn't that cause bulging eyes?
Sorry, i know I'm being dramatic. But its hard to control the old health anxiety at times.

[ATB]

Did you get prescribed this from your GP? These symptoms can be all over the place, so there isn’t a ‘normal’ but there is a lot of varying symptoms which can happen even when starting HRT and they can be symptoms of menopause, which joint pain is. For example I got heart palpitations since starting HRT, not had them before. Only for a couple of months after a dosage change. Now I could of assumed it had to be the HRT, because I hadn’t had them before, but as it’s a symptom of menopause my specialist advised to leave it just a few months more as it is something that happens from low or falling hormones. It is about the oestrogen optimising is my understanding. Although tempting to stop it, you will never know if this was right for you and symptoms like this were just your body adjusting to the change of hormones. If you do stop, it’s not advised you suddenly stop. You would need to seek advice on gradual withdrawal.

[Sheri]

My gynae prescribed it. I'm seeing in Wed.
I do have a sore throat aswell. This started Wed aft.
I keep looking up thyroid problems now from having too much estrogen.
Is this a thing that happens on HRT?

[ATB]

I’m not sure it’s an issue you should worry about at all. Not unless you are having a lot of symptoms, although they do overlap you can look it up and see some are distinctly thyroid related and common- like feeling really cold all of the time. But a lot of women happen to have hypothyroidism, and during perimenopause it’s extra difficult because of that. The bulging eyes issue is associated with Graves’ disease, a common cause of hyperthyroidism- overactive thyroid. It is an auto immune disorder and antibodies would show in CBC blood tests they run as standard at your GP. Too much estrogen can cause the opposite condition, hypothyroidism, which is what I have. Having this condition means I’m at a higher risk of having too much estrogen as well because hypothyroidism slows the elimination pathway. So it’s really complicated! No reason to worry about it because you take HRT. I understand health anxiety, totally get the process you’re going through. Try and find some good videos to watch about how to stop obsessing. I shared one somewhere here the other day.

[joziel]

Sheri, how much estrogen have you switched onto now? Your Conti had 50mcg in it, I wonder if whatever you have replaced it with, is enough...

[Sheri]

I'm on the estrogen part of the everol patch so assuming 50mg

[Sheri]

I'd like to apologise for keeping on about thyroid yesterday. For some reason my anxiety went into over drive & i don't know why.
Was hoping HRT would ease it.
But thank you for replying & not saying, for godsakes woman, shut up lol

[ATB]

Oh goodness, no need to apologise. The symptoms can overlap and it’s perfectly normal to get anxiety when you have lots of symptoms and some could be of serious things, for me that’s the hardest part of this. I have had really awful health anxiety as I’ve had this thyroid thing plus all of this menopause crap and a lump on my neck for 7 years and it’s left me wondering what other hideous things could be wrong many many days. It’s very lonely and distressing so please don’t apologise for your anxiety. It’s completely understandable. I have a great therapist who has helped me through this recently, made a huge difference to me. It’s £35 an hour and completely worth it. I highly recommend it for women going through similar things. Also try and remember, 1 in 2 people have anxiety. You are not unusual or ridiculous, you’re human. This is a high anxiety period of our lives. Have faith you can get through it, you won’t feel like this forever.

[Sheri]

Thank you for being understanding.
I'm thinking of stopping HRT when i see gynae Wed. The stress of worrying about too much estrogen, is worse than my normal anxiety.
I keep panicking, I'm going to have the bulging eyes.
I do actually think, not anxiety related, that i have too much estrogen. My body is hurting, i have fatigue, bloating, sore throat, fullness in ears & heavy painful boobs.
Wondering whether to take this patch off now, cut it in half or wait it out until Wed.