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[KarineT]

ATB, this is going to be slightly out of context but I know what happens when a self-employed person doesn't have any work.  My partner is self-employed and he doesn't always have work. 
As for employers, they have to run a business to make money but most of them are doing very well.
What I meant by being in control is that employers can do what they like when taking on people.
They can change a few things to suit their business needs and themselves. They can get rid of someone, even if they did nothing wrong. I am not talking about redundancy as it's an economical reason.  Working for yourself is almost certainly hard but working for someone else is not necessarily easier.

[ATB]

I didn’t say it was easier to be employed! I feel we are going round in circles. I simply responded when you said it’s easier if you’re self employed and going through menopause because you have choices. You don’t. If it’s just you or a small business, you have to work or lose your business and your income. I think maybe you said self employed earlier when you meant an employer has choices. I would disagree most employers are doing well. I think large corporations have more security and really successful large ones of course those employers can pick and choose who to employ and can discriminate, illegal but difficult to prove.  A medium or small business employer isn’t as secure, and I think menopause policies for them would be hard to implement. The real solution IMO is better healthcare during peri & meno so that being so ill you can’t work is rare.

[Kathleen]

Hello ladies.

I appreciate the work that Davina is doing on behalf of all us menopause sufferers. She is not the only one of course, Mariella Frostrup and Kirsty Wark  also made programmes on the subject.

I think earning a living is a priority for most people whatever their profession. At the beginning of her documentary Davina said she was struggling to read an autocue and worried that she would have to give up presenting so she must have worried about keeping her job. In her first menopause documentary Louise Newson remarked that without HRT Davina wouldn't be able to exercise the way she does and her videos also provide an income.

 It is true that those with more money and influence can afford private care but so can many other women so it is not as exclusive as it seems. The other great leveller is our shared biology, perhaps Davina will find that her HRT stops working and her symptoms start creeping back. Maybe she too will experience unexpected bleeding and be forced to change her HRT to something less effective? In Mariella's programme her specialist said that they still needed to  resolve her anxiety problems.

Basically I think Davina is doing a good job of highlighting how debilitating the menopause can be and better quality care and treatment should be available to everyone who needs it. More power to her elbow I say lol.

Take care ladies.

K.

[ATB]

Nicely said Kathleen 

[KarineT]

Sorry for the confusion ATB.  I did mean employers and not self-employed people because a self-employed person is not necessarily an employer.  When I was initially replying to Winterose, I should have said that someone who's employed by someone else is not necessarily better off than a self-employed person. Where I work, I don't get paid if I'm off sick.