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Spangle1512

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Changing from Oestrogel to Lenzetto
« on: August 25, 2021, 06:59:13 AM »

Hi.

Has anyone changed from oestrogel to lenzetto?  And if so, how does it compare in dosage.  I was on 3.5 pumps oestrogel and have been told to take 3 sprays of lenzetto.  But according to the menopause doctors website 3 sprays is equivalent to 6 pumps.  However another website contradicts that and says that one spray equals less that one pump of gel.  It’s all very confusing.  Many thanks.
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Nas

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Re: Changing from Oestrogel to Lenzetto
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2021, 08:10:22 AM »

Hi
I’ve just been given a private prescription for lenzetto ( was on 75 patch which is 3 pumps of gel I think) and MS said start at 1 pump daily. Otherwise you are using a lot of spray all in one go and can’t really  build up your doses?

Good luck 🤞
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Spangle1512

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Re: Changing from Oestrogel to Lenzetto
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2021, 09:29:08 AM »

Thank you so much for replying.  That’s interesting.  It’s a bit frustrating that all the information is conflicting.  Effectively you’re patch was the same as my gel dose yet our specialists have both given us completely different advice with the spray.
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Nas

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Re: Changing from Oestrogel to Lenzetto
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2021, 11:21:28 AM »

I know, it’s terribly confusing isn’t it.
My MS said initially one spray, which is effectively a 50 patch or two pumps.
I think it’s all to do with how we absorb different products, making a comparison pretty pointless I guess.

Let us know how you get on with the lenzetto.
I’m using up all my patches first ( for what it’s worth!)

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Spangle1512

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Re: Changing from Oestrogel to Lenzetto
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2021, 12:52:09 PM »

If your MS is saying a 50 patch is equivalent to one spray and 2 pumps, it definitely sounds like 3 sprays is way too many for me.  I am going to drop down to 2 sprays for now as I was on 3.5 ish of gel.  I’ll keep you posted, and vice versa if that’s ok. 
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Nas

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Re: Changing from Oestrogel to Lenzetto
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2021, 02:05:34 PM »

Yes keep us updated and I will do likewise .
Are you switching for ease of use, or absorption issues with the gel?
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PMDD

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Re: Changing from Oestrogel to Lenzetto
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2021, 02:22:16 PM »

I have been on Lenzetto for a while now, and initially moved over from 75 patches.

To start with the dose equiv was stated to be one spray was equiv to a 50mcg patch, but no way is that true, and my consultant is finding the same with his other patients.

I am now settled on 4 sprays a day, 2 in the morning & 2 PM. For me this seems similar to when i was on the 75 patch, but may need to go slightly higher yet.
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EllaAurora

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Re: Changing from Oestrogel to Lenzetto
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2021, 03:16:26 PM »

Hi, unfortunately cannot help with the original question on how Lenzetto compares vs gel.
But I'll be following this topic with interest, as I may also be facing similar switch in the next few of weeks, unless my condition significantly improves. I"m currently on 2 pumps of Estrogel and doing so and so.. not as bad as back in the spring but also not very well yet.

May I ask Spangle, why are you switching from Oestrogel and what are the symptoms you are hoping to solve with Lenzetto?

My issue with Estrogel is that I continue to have the feeling of absorption not being even, and that the dose is wearing off some 14-16 hours after applying. Hearing some very positive experiences on Lenzetto, I'm increasingly keen to try it out in case I still need to find an alternative solution.
Already trialled patch unsuccessfully and if I don't balance with Estrogel now, then I only have Lenzetto left to try before moving to oral, which I'd really wish to avoid.

Thanks for keeping us posted and good luck! xxx
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Nas

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Re: Changing from Oestrogel to Lenzetto
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2021, 03:56:18 PM »

Hi PMDD,
So in reality the lenzetto is half the strength it’s meant to be against the patch abs gel then? 4 sprays equating to 75 patch? That means if I need more than 75, I will need at least 6 sprays??

God it’s so much trial and error to try and feel normal!
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Nas

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Re: Changing from Oestrogel to Lenzetto
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2021, 04:01:22 PM »

@PMDD, did you increase to 100 patch from the 75, or go switch  to lenzetto?
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Flan747

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Re: Changing from Oestrogel to Lenzetto
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2021, 04:24:49 PM »

I will also be following this as I have an appt with Newson clinic next week and am hoping to change to Lenzetto as I am on 6 pumps and clearly do not absorb well. The gel dries way too quickly especially in the morning! Good luck. I SJ be tried the patches but I didn’t absorb these at all!
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Pippa52

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Re: Changing from Oestrogel to Lenzetto
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2021, 04:46:04 PM »

Hi
Yes I changed from Oestrogel which I was on for over 20 years to Lenzetto just over 3 weeks ago.  I was prescribed one spray for a week then up up 2 sprays daily.  I found 2 sprays way too much for me I was really jittery and felt very anxious and wired on 2 sprays and yet one was not quite enough.  I therefore now have taped across the opening so I only get one third of one spray and have found that the one spray plus the one third spray seems to be suiting me well and I feel like I am levelling off. I was on 2 and a half pumpsof Oestrogel.  I really like the Lenzetto it is so easy to use and for me absorbs better than the Oestrogel did x
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EllaAurora

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Re: Changing from Oestrogel to Lenzetto
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2021, 04:46:30 PM »

I will also be following this as I have an appt with Newson clinic next week and am hoping to change to Lenzetto as I am on 6 pumps and clearly do not absorb well. The gel dries way too quickly especially in the morning! Good luck. I SJ be tried the patches but I didn’t absorb these at all!

Hi Flan, interesting to hear this, though of course sorry to hear you also have issues with absorption. Do you feel that the gel is absorbing too quickly and then sort of wearing off, or you feel you don't get the effect at all?

For me it seems it absorbs even too well and then also leaves my body too soon. Of course there's no way of telling if this is really the case, but I feel clearly that in the evening after the dose I feel better and nowadays also sleeping quite OK most nights, but then in the morning part of the day start feeling symptoms return, especially around noon. I've tried also splitting the dose but then I felt I just created the same up and down rollercoaster twice a day, so now I'm back applying only once. I did notice that when I'm applying shortly after having taken a shower or bath, the absorption is even faster so now I'm trying to always leave couple of hours between washing the skin and applying the gel. How difficult can it really get...  ::) Hope you'll get moved to Lenzetto and start feeling the benefit! I have my next discussion with gynae in 2 weeks time and if still not better, I'll ask for Lenzetto as well.
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Spangle1512

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Re: Changing from Oestrogel to Lenzetto
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2021, 05:15:39 PM »

I have been on Lenzetto for a while now, and initially moved over from 75 patches.

To start with the dose equiv was stated to be one spray was equiv to a 50mcg patch, but no way is that true, and my consultant is finding the same with his other patients.

I am now settled on 4 sprays a day, 2 in the morning & 2 PM. For me this seems similar to when i was on the 75 patch, but may need to go slightly higher yet.

Thank you.  I think 75 patch is equivalent to 3 pumps of gel so perhaps I should stick to the 3 sprays for now and see what happens.  My specialist said start at 3 and go up to 4 if necessary.
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Spangle1512

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Re: Changing from Oestrogel to Lenzetto
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2021, 05:17:33 PM »

Hi, unfortunately cannot help with the original question on how Lenzetto compares vs gel.
But I'll be following this topic with interest, as I may also be facing similar switch in the next few of weeks, unless my condition significantly improves. I"m currently on 2 pumps of Estrogel and doing so and so.. not as bad as back in the spring but also not very well yet.

May I ask Spangle, why are you switching from Oestrogel and what are the symptoms you are hoping to solve with Lenzetto?

My issue with Estrogel is that I continue to have the feeling of absorption not being even, and that the dose is wearing off some 14-16 hours after applying. Hearing some very positive experiences on Lenzetto, I'm increasingly keen to try it out in case I still need to find an alternative solution.
Already trialled patch unsuccessfully and if I don't balance with Estrogel now, then I only have Lenzetto left to try before moving to oral, which I'd really wish to avoid.

Thanks for keeping us posted and good luck! xxx

Hi

I’m switching because the gel takes so long to absorb, sometimes as much as half hour.

My original symptoms were anger, night sweats, fatigue and insomnia.  The gel helped with the first two but not the insomnia or fatigue.
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