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[sheila99]

Could you cut a piece off the 75 patch? Perhaps somewhere in the middle would suit you better.

[Shell babes]

Funny you should suggest this as I have been cutting a piece off a 25 to add to the 75 but this has proved too much. Do you think I need to go lower but not as low as 50?

[Shell babes]

Sheila 99 - is it ok to PM you about this ?

[sheila99]

I said that because you said it got worse with 100, and on 50 you were drained but didn't mention anxiety/insomnia so I assumed they improved. Is that right? If so then somewhere between 50 and 75 should be your sweet spot. It's so hard as symptoms of too much oestrogen are so similar to too little.
Wrote this before your last post. Yes, fine to pm if I can help but I'm no expert.

[Floo36]

How long did you increase for before dropping back down again?  Just wondering if the anxiety would have improved once you got used to the increase.

[Shell babes]

I increased over three days but just felt super wired where it became impossible to function.

I have cut some off the 75 patch today so will see how it goes.  I feel a bit strange, almost a bit like how I would image withdrawal from a drug would feel and it’s only a quarter that I cut off.  These hormones are so powerful and I am so sensitive to any change. 


Thank you for your support

[Nas]

Shell, I’m in the same boat!
100 patch too strong, 75 is okay, but get bleeding and cramps and 50 is too low. I haven’t a clue what to do, so booked myself to see a menopause specialist next week! Trying to find the right balance seems nigh on impossible?

Best of luck to you, I feel the more I tamper with my hormones, the worse I feel. Right now I’m off HRT to see what symptoms I get ( think I already know the answer!)

[Nas]

Hormonal anxiety and insomnia to me is by far the worst of the symptoms. My anxiety appeared literally out of no where. One day I was driving my car happily, the next day, boom, i was consumed with anxiety prior to doing a 20 minute journey! That has carried on for 2 whole miserable years. I am beginning to tackle it slowly but by god it’s hell when you live semi rural and HAVE to drive to get anywhere. Take and do whatever you need to get it under control, I take Cbd oil, propranolol, rescue remedy, anything ! 

[KarineT]

Blitzen5, are you on HRT? what stage of the menopause are you at?  Has the anxiety started to disappear? I'm 15 months postmeno and I'm only hoping that it will diminish and disappear because it's a horrible symptom to have.

[Nas]

I’m two years plus, post Meno Karine.
I was on HRT but I keep bleeding so have taken myself off until I see the menopause specialist next week. I do feel better on my 75 patch but the bleeds are becoming more frequent now. Currently awaiting  results for endometrium biopsy.

[Shell babes]

I feel relieved that others feel the same. Yesterday I cut a quarter off the 75 Estradot and went to Morrison’s - I felt terrible, like something was missing and started to have panicky feelings. I got home, picked my son up from work still feeling panicky and when I got home I decided to change the patch to estraderm thinking that Estradot didn’t suit me after 1.5 years of suffering,  I was grabbing at straws. I went to bed early and couldn’t sleep, I lay there and felt sick to my stomach. This morning I put an Estradot 75 patch back on in desperation. I have to face the fact that this is as good as it gets. The anxiety is Terrible this morning but I’m trying to talk myself down. My son was stressing last night about all the work he has to do for his apprenticeship and started crying and I started to crumble inside. This was preying on my mind also, my husband said that if he can’t keep up its time to look for something else, I felt broken. An over reaction, something I would normally handle but I don’t cope with stress anymore for some reason. Anyway, what I’m trying to say is that by messing about with the hrt, I am now worse off so I agree, it’s hard to imagine feeling worse, but today I do. I will have to leave the hormones alone as I have tried everything in an effort to escape the anxiety but am by far worse off today, I am so sensitive to hormone change, it’s unreal. I appreciate you taking the time to read this. Ridiculously my husband and son slept well last night whilst I slept restlessly again,  they have no idea what I’m going through and my husband doesn’t understand. He has tried but his eyes keep glaze over as I try my best to explain. As you say blitzen5, it’s hard to strike a balance and I hope you get some answers from the meno clinic, please me know how you get on. I have tried increasing the patch, decreasing the patch, changing the patch, trying oestrogel, trying no patch, you name it, I have tried over the course of two years. I have also tried regarding progesterone - mirena coil, utrogestan and Provera plus combined evorel patches. Estradot 75?and Provera for 14 days plus a tiny pea sized amount of tostran gel is the best I can hope for. This gives me horrendous morning anxiety, a feeling that I can’t cope which is maybe adrenal fatigue and not good sleep.  Thanks for sharing your stories.

[Shell babes]

KarineT / sorry to hear about your anxiety struggles, for no reason. I don’t have answers but totally understand what you are saying, it’s truly horrible and I hope it burns itself out one day. x

[Floo36]

I’m having the same issues and have been for the last 26 months.  Hormone fluctuations have been brutal and severe on top of the usual low Estrogen symptoms.  I too have not got the HRT right and still battle on to do so because of how ill the peri menopause has made me.  I’m hoping peri is coming to an end very soon.

[Shell babes]

I sympathise with all that you say. It has made me so ill that I can hardly function today. I am so tired from not sleeping, I feel horrendous today and wish I had not tampered with my hormones but at least I know that this is the best it will get. I used to be outgoing, bubbly, extrovert and now I am an empty shell of a woman. It’s so sad I could cry. I feel I am headed in a downward spiral. I have a lovely life and family and can’t understand what is happening to me.

[KarineT]

Shell Babes, thanks for your reply.  This stupid anxiety can be controlling at times and it's far from being easy.  Just because  these stupid hormones are doing all sorts of thing.  I don't want to have this symptom for another 10 years.  Of course, it's a wishful thinking but it would be nice if our hormones weren't causing so much problems.  I can't remember how it was during puberty but I the menopause is more troublesome.