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[Whatsupwiththis]

I'm at my wit's end and have run out of options.  I have been on Vagifem for over 4 months every second night.  Have been on Amitrypline for over 2 months and still very sore.  Nothing seems to be working.  Physio mentioned dilators but I'm so sore and stingy that not sure if I want to try them.  Has anyone used them for VA and if so, what kind to use?  Help!  I just want this all to end.

[CLKD]

Every other night may not be enough application.  It is a very low dose so I would use it nightly for 2 weeks, also putting in an extra dose i.e. 2 at once - twice a week.  Have you read the atrophy threads here, some ladies find 'yes' or 'sylc' products useful too.  Take a pain relief tablet 3 times a day for 5 which will ease that need to pee feeling.

If you are stingy a dilator won't help unless its very well lubed ......... I have found that an orgasm eases those symptoms .

[Sammiejane]

Hi ladies

Just wondered if any of you use vagifem or Ovestin on its own without Systemic HRT and have you found enough relief for VA symtoms ?

Also I use Ovestin can I apply this on labia minora and labia majora or will it burn/sting ?

Thanks

[Whatsupwiththis]

Thx all.  Birdy I am not eligible for systemic HRT due to age and very high BP.
Sammiejane...I take both Vagifem and estrone cream without systemic HRT.  Unfortunately or fortunately, I only got VA this year.  I'm 68 and well past age for HRT.  Probably due to this my VA may take longer for Vagifem to work.  At least that's what I'm hoping.
CLKD.  Thx as always for your support.

[Dierdre]

Whatsup, try using both the Vagifem and estrone every day until you feel an improvement, some people use both everyday all the time anyway. Also you could ask for some dermovate cream to help with the soreness and healing, i had this to start with as everything was so raw and no matter what i used it just burned and stung.

[Sammiejane]

Birdy

What Systemic HRT do you take ?

[Tinkerbell]

I am 56 and have to use systemic HRT and Vagifem and Ovestin every day to keep the VA under control.

[CLKD]

I have 'ovestin' which really does keep symptoms away.  KY Jelly around the outer areas or a smudge of 'ovestin' keeps the vaginal area moist.

Try using every night to plump up the area and reduce dryness.  Let us know how you get on.

[Whatsupwiththis]

Thx. Awesome ladies....I guess perseverance is the answer.  I will use both every night and see if it helps.    Anything would be better than this crap!

[shrosphirelass]

What's up, I've just started to use yes VM and it seems to have really had an effect.

CLKD, did you find Ovestin good from the start. Any stinging? Vagifem doesn't seem to suit me. Ive just started with estriol, but find it quite messy so was wondering about switching.

[CLKD]

Hi initially I had suppositories which were so easy but were withdrawn  so GP prescribed 'ovestin' which is delivered by washable applicators.  I had immediate relief from the suppositories and followed on with the 'ovestin'.  Lots of lube prior to sex too ;-).

What's a bit of mess if it helps  .  At least here in the UK we have that option whereas in parts of the World they don't have access to fresh water let alone medications ......... I also use pain relief when symptoms niggle.

[suzysunday]

I find ovestin good and use alternate nights with Boots own brand vaginal moisturiser the other nights .  I am 61 and it took months to settle. I found yes moisturiser gave me a stinging rash when I tested a bit on my arm so I daren't try it on my bits!  I don't find ovestin at all messy.  It can really get you down. I would be wary of dilators till things improve s bit.

[Whatsupwiththis]

Thx.  Suzysunday.  I guess if VA is really severe it would take longer to get relief.  My GP said very succinctly "you didn't get this way in 4 months so don't expect instant success".  She is right but dang by now I thought I would be riding again.😤😟