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Author Topic: 5 days off elleste solo 40ms withdrawl?  (Read 1706 times)

Juneo

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5 days off elleste solo 40ms withdrawl?
« on: May 21, 2018, 01:41:50 PM »

So my go told me to stop using the patches for 3 weeks to see how the breast pain is and it's been five days and it's gone so I'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem. The other thing is i now have the worst headache which has been for two days now and I can't sleep one thing after another or maybe it's because of the intriguingly i had to take for the water infection i had which has thankfully cleared  up. Totally fed up sick of going to the gp one step forward and two steps back :'(
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CLKD

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Re: 5 days off elleste solo 40ms withdrawl?
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2018, 03:39:54 PM »

Did a urine test grow bacteria?  Urine problems can mimic vaginal atrophy really well, do read the threads here.

Maybe put the product name into the search box to see what pops up?
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Juneo

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Re: 5 days off elleste solo 40ms withdrawl?
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2018, 04:57:57 PM »

Hi CLKD yes the urine grew bacteria and my sample was red the worst one so far
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Daisydot

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Re: 5 days off elleste solo 40ms withdrawl?
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2018, 05:26:29 PM »

Hi juneo have you had a mirror look downstairs recently,the reason i ask is originally before I knew anything about V.A I had red urine sample too and it freaked me out but no one checked me out I was just referred under 2week protocol to urologist.I was petrified and couldn't understand why the bleeding stopped as quickly as it started.so anyway long story short I had a look and I had two huge red raw sores at either side of vaginal entrance and every time I peed it was like pouring acid on that area and if course it bled.the pain was dreadful too,I had so many antibiotics courses that I was now allergic to most of them and of course I was riddled with thrush.it took a long long time to get that all corrected and it was by research and trial on my part not the gps or anyone else,i trawled the internet to get as much info as I could because I knew if I went down the urology route and had the invasive stuff done I was just introducing more bacteria into my system and my body couldn't cope with anything else not to mention my mind.I got the practice nurse to prescribe me an anti-fungal tablet,just one,then I bombarded my body with coconut oil internally by the spoonful twice daily internally by making it into pessaries and then externally applied to all the sores and paper cuts caused by the V.A which I'd now worked out this was what it was.when I'd calmed everything down and had no more pain,the swelling originally was awful,I then went back to the nurse and asked for estriol cream which I applied internally for 4 weeks as I knew I was bad and then also used externally every day,it took months of doing this to get right and in the meantime I'd no other uti infections so I knew I was n the right tracks,I tested my urine daily and kept the ph balance 7 and under by watching my diet ,no acidic foods or drinks no caffeine etc usual stuff,and drank bottled water I even checked the ph balance on the bottled water as it really varies,price has no impact on it.its a long hard slog and it's not always as clear cut as we think,I now trust my judgement before my gps sadly and I find it very hard to get them to think outside the box,they are so set on protocol that they miss the obvious.
I still get intermittent breast pain and I've been on the oestrogel a good few months now,some days I have nothing others I could scream with my left breast.ive got meno consulatant on Thursday so I'll see what he has to say about that and update.your body will be adjusting now to the drop in oestrogen so you'll have to allow for that with headaches etc.xx
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Dancinggirl

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Re: 5 days off elleste solo 40ms withdrawl?
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2018, 06:23:55 PM »

I think if you are getting a bit of breast pain but so many of the menopause symptoms are under control, then it may be worth putting up with this discomfort to gain all the benefits? My gynaecologist said it was quite normal to get some breast pain for a few months while the body “woke up” and welcomed the oestrogen - he said it usually settles and I found he was right.  DG x.
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Juneo

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Re: 5 days off elleste solo 40ms withdrawl?
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2018, 06:59:07 PM »

Hi daisydot i have never looked to be honest don't ask me my but my brains just not with me hasent been for a good while, I have just had a look and I am very red inside the vagina entrance on both sides and I do feel hot down there burning sometimes to be honest and when I had the last symptoms of was like I was passing broken glass down below it was that painful,can I ask how did you check your ph level?
I have noticed when I go abroad on holiday it does flair up i only drink water never thought to check it even though my daughter mentioned about mineral water, I drink decaff when I'm home or away as I have acid reflux. I have quite a few cysts in my breasts which the specialist told me are best left alone they are painful and the added breast pain was really bad i don't know what to do
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Juneo

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Re: 5 days off elleste solo 40ms withdrawl?
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2018, 07:01:00 PM »

Hi dancing girl can I ask how long it took for the breast pain to settle for you? I found I had none for the first few months and then it came on really quick x
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Dancinggirl

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Re: 5 days off elleste solo 40ms withdrawl?
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2018, 07:17:05 PM »

If you are redcoat around your vagina then you really need local oestrogen and vaginal moisturisers.

If you have cysts in your breasts then I can imagine these can get very painful and perhaps for you the oestrogen would give more problems. I don't remember how long I had tender breasts I'm afraid.
DG x
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Re: 5 days off elleste solo 40ms withdrawl?
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2018, 07:18:43 PM »

Juneo, are you not using anything for urogenital atrophy? You need to ask your GP for either Vagifem or Ovestin, or even both if you are sore externally.
JP x
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Juneo

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Re: 5 days off elleste solo 40ms withdrawl?
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2018, 08:05:42 PM »

Hi dancing girl in using sylk  and vagifem  excuse my ignorance but is the elleste  a local oestrogen, I'm getting myself confused now x
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Juneo

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Re: 5 days off elleste solo 40ms withdrawl?
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2018, 08:08:06 PM »

Hi joaniepat i am using vagifem and sylk is ovestin hrt? As I was on ellest e but my doctor has told me to come off for 3 weeks x
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Daisydot

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Re: 5 days off elleste solo 40ms withdrawl?
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2018, 08:20:38 PM »

Hi juneo that's good your investigating yourself sounds as if like me no one bothered to check you out there for V.A you could now be on the right road to resolve this for yourself.
I use the test sticks you can buy them online from amazon, I get mines from sweetcures as they are the easiest to read and the most accurate,you want to aim for 7 or below so your urine is alkaline rather than acidic,bacteria cannot thrive in alkaline environments.i used to test first thing every morning I did it week after week till I knew I had the ph under control,I no longer have to do this.Get some estriol cream from your gp and do a two week internal dose and also smear on outer areas so that you get the sores and the v.a cuts under control.you maybe lucky and talk him into prescribing vagifem for internal plus estriol for external mines are buggers and won't do this for me so I buy it in Spain.youll find once you take these simple steps things will dramatically improve for you as far as breast pain goes I also didn't have it the first month to six weeks on hrt,it started after a few weeks I'd say right out the blue,they went like cannonballs, it feels like I have hard sections in the left breast so I'll discuss with consultant on Thursday and let you know what he advises.just look on the side of your bottles f water it'll give you h balances the cheaper brands are usually best believe it or not.tap water tends to be 8+ so bottled still water under ph 7 would be best.good luck xx ovestin and estriol are both hrt creams used in the prevention/treatment of v.a All night with your hrt pills/patches/gel and vagifem.
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Dancinggirl

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Re: 5 days off elleste solo 40ms withdrawl?
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2018, 09:52:27 PM »

Juneo
Elleste is a systemic HRT.
Vagifem (pessaries) and Ovestin (cream) are both local oestrogen treatments for urogenital atrophy.
SYLK is a NON hormonal moisturiser for the vagina and vulva area.
All local oestrogen treatments should be obtained on prescription from a doctor.
Moisturisers are best bought online but can sometimes be obtained on prescription.
DG x
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Juneo

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Re: 5 days off elleste solo 40ms withdrawl?
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2018, 02:31:42 PM »

Daisydot i will order those on Amazon Thank you that's great to know, I will speak to my gp about ovestin when I see him and yes that will be interesting to hear what you are told about your breast pain mind felt solid and are a lot softer now.
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Juneo

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Re: 5 days off elleste solo 40ms withdrawl?
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2018, 02:35:26 PM »

Hi Thank you dancing girl for the information you have given me it's much appreciated it does get me down trying to work it all out my go doesn't really go into things i think I need to talk about it more when I see him next x
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