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Ju Ju

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Re: Aggression in menopause
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2017, 08:54:10 PM »

Some people need to be right, whatever the cost and whether they are or not. Some look for arguments and are so full of anger. They respond to situations and what others say inappropriately as they are reacting to past pain. If you add unbalanced hormones into the mix.....

I often think it would be useful training for managers to have the opportunity to try and get a large class of 4 year olds to tidy up ( not that it would be fair to the children). What works with children works with adults. Shouting, anger and demoralising does not work, particularly long term. Praise for any behaviour that is in the right direction, approval, respect, appreciation and humour works.

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Tempest

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Re: Aggression in menopause
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2017, 08:58:34 PM »

You are so right, Ju Ju! xxxxx
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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2017, 09:23:15 PM »

For me personally Mrs. B - I can feel hormones 'taking over' when I take HRT,  and I really don't care for it much! It's the thing I struggle with the most. :o

I read about a lady in DM who took testosterone  replacement and her husband pulled her up saying 'you're barking at me'. I think it can make you aggressive, especially if it's not really needed. I don't think we need to/should use these things nescessarily long term, especially in the same doses as when younger- I see HRT as something to 'ease the way' and I think it should be adjusted age appropriately, as all kinds of problems may ensue in my opinion if not.

 The women over at the US website Hysteresisters are very clued up on this - they rarely stay on the same dose of HRT for years after their surgeries, and many say they don't need Testosterone as they get older.

I always admire Cubagirl on here -she has sensibly adjusted her HRT over the years to her needs at the time, even though she had a full hysterectomy and ovaries removed (I hope I'm not embarrassing you if you're reading in, Cubagirl), and is now on a low dose that suits her. It shows, too. She's a lovely lady who is doing just what feels right/fits with her time of life right now. And surely that is the very best guide - how you feel, not necessarily following 'guidelines'. xxxxx
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MicheleMaBelle

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Re: Aggression in menopause
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2017, 09:30:32 PM »

It depends on basic personality type but I've no doubt that the lack of caring hormones in menopause makes you give less of a s*** what others think.Plus the virtual world makes people bolder.

I don't really think it's about gender- I've worked with great males and females but I've also worked with horrible and scheming people of both sexes. On balance though, I think females are definitely the most deadly of the species...I really can't be doing with Queen Bee syndrome and I just cannot stomach cliques of any sort.

We are all going through turbulent times and generally I have found most women on the forum loving and helpful.

What I do detect at times is a lack of emotional intelligence- controversial perhaps but I think that it's an important point to make. we all have strong opinions, some are more vocal than others but please consider what you are posting in light of the fact that we are all different and it's different strokes for different folks and that we would do well to remember this and try and present as balanced a view as possible. Now, before you are all up in arms, I'm not suggesting that everyone is guilty of this...I just think that we should all get in the habit of reviewing before hitting the send button.

Personally I've found the site and the support a godsend but I've detected sourness that wasn't there before so I think that we need to cool our jets a little bit!

With love and best wishes to you all- life is too short to bicker xxx
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Re: Aggression in menopause
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2017, 09:54:48 PM »

In my case it's hard to tell as I've always had a bit of a temper when pushed. Not something which happens often thankfully, but I do explode occasionally. I'm great at saying what I should or would do in a given situation.  ;D I tend to skulk off & start frantically cleaning these days instead.

On here I try to be mindful of how folk feel about the written word. Doesn't always work, but that's life.

Tempest  :oops: you're making me blush.  ;D  Have to say I don't always feel sensible. I'm relieved that medical profession have not yet taken away my patches. One GP did suggest, a while back, that my low dose wasn't worth taking as it was too low to be of much effect. I begged to differ & here I am still using half a 25mg patch.
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Re: Aggression in menopause
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2017, 09:57:41 PM »

Och, lassie! 'Cool our jets' - I just love that phrase! Hope youre doing ok these days, Michele - still hoping to share a scone and a blether with you at some point in the 'real world'.  ;) :)xxxxx
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MicheleMaBelle

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Re: Aggression in menopause
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2017, 10:04:40 PM »

I'm up for it chica if you are. Thought I'd leave you alone for a wee while as you've been having a rough ride ( what I did type was " as you're property mental right now" but see, I reviwed my post and thought better of it! )
Oh Tempest, I'm only kidding as I know you've got a great sense of humour and I'm safe in the knowledge that I'm more mental than you...
and no,I'm not making light of mental health issues- I'm suffering from these too.

But it would be good to go into a genteel coffee shop/ tearoom and start chucking scones about. You first though on account of your previous experience!
Love a'ways x
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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2017, 10:05:37 PM »

Ha ha! Cubagirl, i'm the same! Hubby says 'oh no. She's away with the mad cleaning again', and then he beats a hasty retreat..... ;D

Science doesn't know everything- if the half patch does it for you then it's the very ticket,  as they say! You ARE sensible - you listen to your body which a lot of us don't have the knack of (I'm trying to learn)! Right now, it's telling me to go and make a cuppa and a toasted teacake, so obligingly I'm going to listen....... ;) xxxxx
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MicheleMaBelle

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Re: Aggression in menopause
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2017, 10:08:22 PM »

Oooohhh- lovely x
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Tempest

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Re: Aggression in menopause
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2017, 10:11:04 PM »

Michele -  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: - Luss tea rooms. Has to be done.....preferably when it's full of a coach load of Japanese tourists.We'll tell them it'a a 'ye olde Scottish custom'.......   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: xxxxx
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MicheleMaBelle

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Re: Aggression in menopause
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2017, 10:17:26 PM »

You should come here. We could go to the Greenock cruise terminal and throw scones at the poor buggers wandering about the Boak Mall looking confused. Greenock Glasgow. Yeah right!
I'll PM you to T and scone something up .x
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Re: Aggression in menopause
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2017, 10:34:40 PM »

Wait! This thread is about 'aggression in the menopause'......does assaulting folk with scones count? I think it mightily well does.........Must be the Testosterscone....... (somebody lock me up - please. Sorry ladies)!  ;) ;D xxxxxx
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Elizabethrose

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« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2017, 11:19:15 PM »

Interesting thread this. I know that for many years women have been labeled as becoming aggressive, hysterical and over emotional through menopause but I think if you look at any group, male or female, struggling with difficult health conditions, you find people who are often tired, in pain, frightened, angry, bad tempered and sometimes rude and aggressive. I think the way people manage difficult health situations and stress can vary according to their personality and temperament. Some people are aggressive and nasty irrespective of whether they are ill or not, equally some people are kind and gentle irrespective of what they are experiencing.

In other words some people are aggressive, sarcastic, patronizing and bullying, it's just inherent in their nature.

As far as forums are concerned, I only have experience of this one; I've never looked at any others. I have concluded from watching the activity on this site that the vast majority of women (and men if they are participating incognito) are kind and caring souls needing support of some kind and wanting to offer comfort reassurance and support to others too. I'm frequently really touched by the examples of kindness here. However, as I discussed on the thread 'a need for a bit more sensitivity', which was before your time on the forum Mrs. B, there are unfortunately some who like to swagger around, advising but also frequently dictating, throwing out sarcastic rude and unkind comments and trying to dominate.

There will always be those in a collective situation who like to wrestle control, to throw their weight around, We all recognise them in real life, you get examples every where; that particular member of the church council, WI, reading groups, school PTA groups, charity shops and committees, the choir. We've all met their types but a forum offers them the freedom of being incognito, removes the natural constraints a real life situation dictates, they can roll up their sleeves and strut around dropping sarcastic digs when it takes their fancy, acting as if they are a member of admin. Often they are narcissists with an egotistical admiration of their own attributes and like nothing better to puff themselves up displaying their talents and knowledge. A forum is probably like a drug to these types, a quick fix for them. Often these people are lacking in something, that's why they have the need to constantly crave attention and praise.

Peri hasn't made me more aggressive. I've always been fiery; I grew up with four brothers, that makes you pretty tough, confident and assertive. They taught me to box, play rugby, so physically I've always been pretty fearless but I'm a tough old bird generally. I'm never intimidated and will not and never have taken any nonsense from anyone. You can be strong and powerful without being rude and aggressive though. I've always despised bullies and would take them out at school if I witnessed it. I often think those who stand behind the bully and allow that sort of behaviour to continue are as bad as the bully themselves.

I was discussing different personality types on forums recently with one of my brothers who's an expert on personality profiling. Fascinating stuff. Apparently there's always the narcissist who struts their stuff. Hubby is on a couple of specialist car forums and he says it's the same there too, though the guys are much less tolerant of the narcissistic know it all types They are much less polite in their handling of them!
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CLKD

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Re: Aggression in menopause
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2017, 02:41:27 AM »

I'll pack my case and head for Luss  ;) - we discovered it a couple of years ago and Fell in Love ......... they does a great evening meal too!

A family member would clean ferociously pre-menstrually then collapse into a heap as soon as the bleed began.  Every month, I knew not to contact her as there were no mobiles in those days  ::)

One cannot tell a true narcissist on a Forum, one has to live with 1 to see it at work  :(

I can't find that particular thread  :-\
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Ju Ju

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Re: Aggression in menopause
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2017, 04:05:17 AM »

Well we formed a MM choir etc before. How about a scone throwing contest? That's if you can resist eating them first!

I find this personality thing fascinating. DH has studied and used personality profiling in his work. I had mine profiled and it was scarily accurate. It helps to understand and accept and even celebrate people who think and operate in different way to yourself. For example, my Dad has the tendency to want to know details that go over my head or seem unimportant to me. It used to irritate me. He was a scientist when he worked and details are important in science. Thank goodness there are people like my Dad. My qualities lie elsewhere, mainly in a caring, supportive role, which helped me as a teacher of young children.

 We all have qualities, which are of value, as long they are not taken to an extreme and pushing out other qualities. The need to be boss and take control can be seen as potential leadership qualities without the balance of being aware and caring of others. Any quality taken to extreme can be dysfunctional, even caring for others if personal boundaries are not there.
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