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[nicolcarrie70]

Hi Ladies,

I need your help!!!

I'm 46 and been menopausal for a few years (irregular - light periods, night sweats, insomnia etc) and most recently a dry vagina and angry bladder.

Since December (5 months) I've been experiencing UTI symptoms and having had all the usual tests gynaecologist has said that although I am fairly young this is due to low estrogen.

I started on Femoston 1/10 with Vagifem 14-3-2, this having givien no improvement was increased to 2/10 and another loading Of Vagifem plus continued daily use.

With all the above I am still suffering😞

Can anyone offer any suggestions as my Gynaecologist can only offer a hysterectomy as an option.  I have discussed playing around with different HRT regimes but he just seems clueless!  My urologist is also of little help as he can only suggest AD's even though the only thing that is depressing me is my bladder😫😫😫😫😫

[Annie0710]

Try ovestin as well as your regime

It's an oestrogen cream for the outside area and has really helped moisten things up as well as other relief

Or, double up your vagifem dose to 2 pessaries two or three times a week

Another alternative as extra is replens

[nicolcarrie70]

Annie0710, thank you for your reply.

Will Ovestin help with the inside?

I've spent months reading posts on here looking for answers and advice but can't see that anyone has had the same problem of VA after two loading and daily use of Vagifem.

I have ordered replens🙏

[Maryjane]

Replens is actually not recommended at all anymore ( although still prescribed) ....all to do with osmosity, causes thrush amongst other things.


If you've been reading here for a while , then you will VA is for many of us hard to get on top of , and lotsnof trial and error.

Why will a hysterectomy help 🤔 your womb is your scaffolding and hang onto it if at all possible , as you are prone to further prolapses without it , one being Vaginal vault prolapse.

ovestin / estriol can be used in and out .....there's the estring also.

YES products / sylk / all natural no nasties like replens.

[nicolcarrie70]

Maryjane, I actually don't know the answer to your question!  In a normal state of mind I would have asked but I don't think I'm functioning at all!!  Im so sleep deprived that I'm like a zombie😫

My gynaecologist is treating me as though I'm exaggerating!  I'm thinking that maybe I need a second opinion.

[Maryjane]

You need to no exactly why a hysterectomy is suggested , a 100 years ago the did hysterectomys to try and cure hysteria in women , never worked ....just a thought 🤔


Do your homework, I no it's a hideous time .....me too. 🙈

[Cassie]

Your gynae needs a slap, why even suggest a hysterectomy for VA when the poor patient is already so stressed....hope you get sorted, but a hyster is def not the solution. 

[CLKD]

Do not undergo hysterectomy unless absolutely necessary!  Your GP should refer you to a meno specialist if the Gynea doesn't know enough about HRT etc..  If you have hysterectomy you are out of his hair! (? cynical - moi ? ).  You will need more HRT if you have such radical surgery!! so what would he recommend prior to surgerical intervention!?! [pity I can't spell ..... ]

Have a browse round, make notes.  Think about which symptom you would like to ease most of all. 

Vagifem used to be delivered in a higher dose so maybe double up on alternate nights, or ask for Ovestin1mg instead.  Used in the same way for 2 weeks then every 3/5th night though I adapt treatment as required to keep symptoms at bay.

Replens is a moisturiser only, it won't re-plump with oestrogen as the products above are designed to do.  There are ladies here that struggle, hence the advice.  I also use KY Jelly inside and out to keep things moist and supple.

As oestrogen levels drop so the body dries up = VA, itchy nostrils/ears/skin and also, muscles may become lax = aches and pains.  It's The Change tha' knows   

Do avoid surgery if the main problem right now is vaginal atrophy! because it can cause more problems than it solves particularly regarding HRT requirements!

[Annie0710]

Sorry about recommending replens, I actually haven't used it for years and used Sylk internally with vagifem but didn't work Day to say but ok before sex.  Ovestin I use externally but can be inserted too

I used replens years ago after my hysterectomy (don't have a hyster unless absolutely necessary ) and it worked ok but these ladies know better so listen to them xx

[CLKD]

I think it can be useful for general moistness unless it causes 'thrust' etc., it really can be Trial and Error!  It has to be what suits each person which even then, sometimes needs looking for another method of easing symptoms.  The point of being here is to offer up advice so that others can take what they feel suits them and give it a whirl .......

[Maryjane]

Annie sorry the replens , I hadn't read any other replies sonjumoed in 🙈.

Mr Panay an one other , have written a paper of all the vaginal lotions / potions and replens is given a big no , but horses for courses. 😊

[CLKD]

Maybe the recipe has been altered which may give it less appeal. 

[Annie0710]

Annie sorry the replens , I hadn't read any other replies sonjumoed in 🙈.

Mr Panay an one other , have written a paper of all the vaginal lotions / potions and replens is given a big no , but horses for courses. 😊

Absolutely, I'm relatively new to VA, so would always listen to what you ladies advise x

[Tempest]

I can absolutely recommend YES VM moisturiser. It's a relatively new product which is unique as it holds moisture in the tissues. I spoke to the developing chemist and use it every day. Marvellous stuff! It''ll also be available on prescription soon and is 97% organic.  xxxxx

[Hurdity]

I think it can be useful for general moistness unless it causes 'thrust' etc.,

Oo-er!

 

    nicolcarrie70

I agree re the hysterectomy - defo a no-no just for VA - what is your gynae thinking of? You need to find a different one! Good luck! I would definitely use some ofthe products mentioned - especially estriol cream for outer areas as well as Vagifem. the generic estriol is weaker (0.01%) than Ovestin so could be used more liberally as a moisturiser as well as some plumping up.

Hurdity x