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Pholmes33

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First time issues
« on: March 16, 2017, 03:16:36 PM »

I am wanting some advice i am 47 nearly 48 and I'm not sure if I am entering menopause here goes  :-\ my periods are basically the same sometime a little late some are heavier than others but it's everything else that is happening i feel.like I'm going out of my mind every time I get a new ache or pain i blow it up in my mind that I have something really bad imntured all the time I have palpitations and chest pains i am going for a ECG on Monday I can cry at the drop of a hat my joints ache especially elbows and thrists and very moody i am also itchy especially booby area and at night i have to sleep with both windows open otherwise I'm onfire the doctors say that if the heart test is ok he will put me in beta blockers to calm the palpitations down i have also had some bloods done for various things
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CLKD

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Re: First time issues
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2017, 03:24:47 PM »

 :bighug:  you'll fit right in  ::)

As oestrogen levels drop so muscles may become lax = aches and pains which should be eased with over the counter pain relief.  Also the body may become dry: nostrils, deep in the ears, vagina, skin ....... browse round, make notes - we have topics on most botheration on here  ::)

Some ladies find keeping a mood/food/symptom diary of use.  Taking a list to appts is important so that we don't forget to discuss our worries.

I have taken beta-blockas for years to ease anxiety surges as well as an emergency drug for when anxiety over-whelms me.  I also take an anti-depressant. 
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Pholmes33

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Re: First time issues
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2017, 03:46:35 PM »

Thanks I just want the doctors to recognise all this and help me as some days I feel like the world is closing in on me
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samweller161

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Re: First time issues
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2017, 04:01:11 PM »

Welcome Pholmes33

I actually keep a spreadsheet (I know, I know, very geeky) with all the days/dates on, when I have a bleed, which of the Duet type pills I am on (ie white or green), whether I drink alcohol or not, whether I get night sweats, extra anxiety, you name it.  Its actually very pretty  ;D But very useful to take to doc during review time

You sound very typically peri I have to say!  So welcome to the club

SP x
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ancient runner

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Re: First time issues
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2017, 04:05:04 PM »

Poor you! Sounds like it might be (shhh) - perimenopause. HRT might do the job better than betablockers but of course that's entirely up to you. There's lots of info tucked away in the menus at the top and you'll find us all whinging about various symptoms, including yours.  ;D
Worrying that you're about to drop dead of some horrific illness is VERY common by the way. And it's horrible. So sorry you are feeling this way.
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Pholmes33

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Re: First time issues
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2017, 04:20:40 PM »

Thanks everyone so glad I have found this forum i actually feel a bit  normal talking to people who have same issues as me
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Re: First time issues
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2017, 04:22:58 PM »

Browse round.  Make notes ;-).  Ask, ask, ask .....
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Re: First time issues
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2017, 11:16:21 AM »

Hi Pholmes33

 :welcomemm:

I agree with the others that if it's menopausal symptoms you don't really want to be starting to take meds like betablockers which slow your heart rate and lower blood pressure, when HRT might be an option. It could be a bit early for this if your symptoms are due to rapidly fluctuating hormones ( although it works a treat for some women at this stage). Another option is the birth control pill - there is a newer one called QLAIRA which is a bit like HRT and controls the cycle so you would not get those dreadful symptoms, and there are only 2 tablet free days.

Hurdity x
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Re: First time issues
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2017, 04:00:44 PM »

Hi pholmes 33
Oh u sound exactly like me all those things happening. U will make urself worse worrying literally! I found that once u decide in ur own mind that it's perimenopause then u will start to relax about all these strange things that r happening. I suffered terribly with anxiety brought on purely thru thinking I had a dreadful disease. I'm 48 nearly 49 and noticed more things a year ago. I went to docs and had blood tests they were all clear which eased my anxiety which is one less thing to worry about that u might be having a heart attack! Hope U  find some relief  :)
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Pholmes33

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Re: First time issues
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2017, 02:05:35 PM »

Had my bloods back and I'm anemic I am now on iron tablets from the doctor I got these on Monday and yesterday I had to go to hospital for a pre op  for a angio gram to check if one if the veins in my head has stopped bleeding but while I was there the nurse practitioner told me that your haemoglobin levels should be about 158 and mine in Monday where 78 so no wonder I felt vile but the goid news is that in the short spell I have been on the iron tablets I have started to pick up
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slow

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Re: First time issues
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2017, 03:17:35 PM »

Hi Pholmes33

I'm exactly the same age as you, and can say that after a forensic examination of my ills over recent years (with hindsght and thanks to all the info in here & on the web), they pretty much all add up to symptoms of perimenopause - a wildly dramatic yet totally invisible phase of women's life, bringing almost-daily changes! I think I first noticed memory difficulties and finger joint arthritis about 4 years ago, so that's retrospectively where I think mine started. Public information telling us most women 'hit menopause in their 50s' is, to me, like describing a massive multi-vehicle pile-up that was a wave of destruction, with cars & trucks hitting each other in a domino effect over half a mile of motorway by only mentioning when the final vehicle was hit, with no mention of the hits, twists & devastation that took place all along the chain of accidents that led to that final smash!

Perimenopause is all those incidents and crashes that happen to get you to the final crash, and our journey is likely to be bumpy - luckily there's loads of info hiding on brilliant websites and in this forum, to help us navigate and smooth out those bumps. We just have to do the searching ... and tryst that we're not going crazy / our body isn't disintegrating or riddled with ailments 😊

My symptoms - if this helps - over the last 4 or so years have been:

- sudden lack of energy / enthusiam
- loss of concentration, no longer able to hyperfocus for work
- very poor short term memory
- trigger thumb & aches in my knuckles
- pins & needles in my hands during the night
- itchy skin, esp. my breasts and back
- lower back pain (MRIs, cortisone injection)
- hip ache on rhs
- fluctuating eyesight, nightmare trying to fix on a prescription
- itchy scalp
- very light periods & missing one here & there
- zero interest in romance, male company or sex
- severe depression despite loving my life & loving my choices
- anxiety, increasing over time, not helped with counselling
- extreme / irrational fear of death, yet wanting not to live
- extreme worries about my parents' ageing, housing choices & dying
- facial shape changes (due to sometimes bloating, & collagen loss?)
- apathy, loss of my trademark lusty enthusiasm for life & adventure in everything

In short - I have felt like an alien personality has moved in, and I'm trapped away in a tiny part of my memory, trying to get out & inhabit my body again. I'm being helped now by hrt, but I'm really hoping that when this peri-mare is over that I'll get to be a Crone with my own personality & love of life back!

Hopefully (in a weird way) this sounds familiar and thus slightly reassuring???

My gp is very pro-hrt rght rrom the start of peri, and I found this backed up Professor John Studd's work (a consultant gynae specialisng in specialising in endocrinology - hormones), so I'm giving it a go.

I started with patches but they didn't stick so then went for tablets. Had a blip with the first they trued - Elleste Duet - because the synthetic progesterone didn't agree with me at all - bad facial scabs (raw acne, which I'd not had in puberty but did as an adult in my 20s, dealt with by roaccutane) and the blackest, suicidal depression. Hung on for 3 months but by then felt I'd struggle to keep living if we didn't change it, and am now on Femoston 1/10 which is sequential and continuous - meaning it's 14 days oestrogen, then 14 days oestrogen & progesteron, and you get a bleed at the end of the progesteron phase but you don't take a break in pills, you start the next month straight away. Phew! This is probably too much information in one go, but just wanted you to know you are not crackers, and if *you* feel this is peri then it probably is - trust your interoception, that it is picking up internal signals correctly & letting you know.

Best of luck with absorbing the fact you are in this phase of your life, and then all the info out there. I have found this forum to be the best resource, having dipped in & out for a long time, but now I've joined I'm finding lots more gems and a very supportive group of fellow jouneyers x
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Pholmes33

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Re: First time issues
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2017, 10:27:37 PM »

Thank you that has just sumed Me up I'm not mad I'm normal 3yrs I have felt like this so glad I found this forum learning more every time I visit
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Re: First time issues
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2017, 09:12:17 AM »

Wow Slow, you've just about hit the nail on the head for likely a massive % of perimenopausal women! Out of interest was the patch you tried femseven sequi as I tried that and it didn't stick whereas the Everol sequi I've had no problem with sticking? Hope the femoston works for you. I regret not trying that one as a gp told me it wasn't prescribable in U.K. (Quite wrongly I've since learned)! Elleste duet caused mood swings from hell on progesterone but funnily enough it's working great for me in the patch form!
Pholme33 really hope you start to feel better soon. You've come to the right place to seek support ☺
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slow

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Re: First time issues
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2017, 01:51:47 AM »

Lol - Optimist, I honestly can't remember which patch it was 😂😂😂 menobrain!

Interesting to hear about the difference with Elleste in patch-form. I wish I'd not felt like I was mucking my gp around, and tried another patch before going the tablet route as I do struggle to remember to take it, plus would rather my liver not have to deal with it.

I'm planning on going to see someone privately (Studd or similar) to get my levels looked at in detail and move to a more tailored option. I'm just not functioning, and need to chnage that as I have another 30 years I'll need to be earning for!!! I'm pretty sure I need less progesterone and more testosterone, but think my D3 & B12 might be shot too, and I'm inconsistent with remembering supplements. Anyway, I prefer not to dwell on the symptoms (or repeatedly discuss / think about them), but rather look to finding options to try and then get on with it. I'm really hoping I can find some va va voom & get back to earning so I can have a better quality of life above survival-ish. Bring on that day :)

Best of luck on your journey too x
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