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[doolou]

Wow! You ladies amaze me! I have never had children through choice,  and I have massive respect for all mothers,  I don't know how you do it!  I feel a bit badly done to as not having had children and ending up with a moderate rectocele and possible cycstocele after having a hysterectomy seems a bit unfair.  But hey,  need to get sorted now,  it's been a long hard journey for me.  X

[Annie0710]

Aw Doolou do you mean you've suffered your prolapses BECAUSE of your hysterectomy ?

Mine weren't caused by pregnancies, it was a badly managed stillbirth that caused mine :-( x

[doolou]

Hi Annie0710, yes I'm afraid so. I didn't have that problem before my hysterectomy just over a year ago. My op was supposed to change my life for the better,  no more endo pain.  It's been one failing after another which has been a nightmare if I'm honest.  Don't know what I'd have done without my other half,  amazing friends and the information and support on here.  It took a private appointment,  10 months post op for someone to say, oh yes you have got a problem!  Everyone in between kept saying everything is where it should be!  I am forever hopeful on my good days that I will one day resemble something like the old me again.  Thanks Annie xx

[Annie0710]

That's so sad Doolou, I hope you get things sorted and start to feel better x

[doolou]

Bless you Annie,  thank you xx

[Ju Ju]

What a shame Doolou. Unfortunately prolapse of the back and front walls are not uncommon after hysterectomy, which is why I was offered pelvic floor physiotherapy and urged to continue the exercises forever. Not been easy while suffering from breathing difficulties! You'd think that lying down, sitting or standing would require much in the way of breathing, but I found it does! Also difficult if unable to evacuate the bowels. But I manage the rest of the time.

My 1st was 81/2 lbs and the 2nd, 10lbs.

DH was keen for a third, but I did my sums. Another 11/2 lbs would make 11lbs! Also my abdomen muscles were shot and I had a mothers apron, so would have required support. So I said absolutely no! I shall forever be grateful to the gynaecologist who did the research to sort out the appropriate help, so that I didn't have to live with the disfigurement and discomfort for the rest of my life.

[Taz2]

Hi Annie0710, yes I'm afraid so. I didn't have that problem before my hysterectomy just over a year ago. My op was supposed to change my life for the better,  no more endo pain.  It's been one failing after another which has been a nightmare if I'm honest.  Don't know what I'd have done without my other half,  amazing friends and the information and support on here.  It took a private appointment,  10 months post op for someone to say, oh yes you have got a problem!  Everyone in between kept saying everything is where it should be!  I am forever hopeful on my good days that I will one day resemble something like the old me again.  Thanks Annie xx

Sorry to hear that you have this now doolou but it is really common after hysterectomy and your surgeon should have explained that this might happen. Like Ju Ju I have been given exercises to do as my hysterectomy was due to womb and bladder prolapse which shows that my tissues are already weak. I hope your surgery goes well - sorry that it took so long to identify the problem though.

Taz x

[doolou]

Thank you Taz and Juju.  I did the pelvic floor exercises for sometime post op, but think that I have adhesions too, so that seemed to make me  more uncomfortable. Although I haven't been able to do the classes I used to love at the gym,  I have carried on with yoga/pilates and body balance twice a week and automatically hold myself when lifting etc. You would think in this day and age of medical advances that they would be able to come up with something that would help to keep things I place.......like a balloon to keep things where they were before the op? Lol. Anyway,  I am trying to be positive that the 2 surgeons who are going to do my op this time can improve things so I can be something like the woman I used to be.  Bless you both xx

[jessieblue]

All I can say is......I love all you amazing warrior women!  We have a lot of crap to deal with us girls, whether mothers or not.  Our plumming is a challenge at the best of times.  Thank you all for taking part in this discussion.  You make me feel humble and proud.  We are fighters and although I currently feel on my knees, I know I am not alone and I will fight on with the rest of you for answers and comfort.  I dreaded getting to this time in my life.....middle age....post meno....urgh.  It all sounds pretty depressing, but actually, us women are pretty damn cool! xx

[Annie0710]

Aw Jessieblue

I feel better after this discussion that I'm not alone , onwards and upwards or in our cases, up, down along up out lol x

[Ju Ju]

I've been for my physiotherapy appointment. I was supposed to go last November after waiting months, but I was too ill to attend. Unfortunately, the physiotherapist couldn't find my notes and was very embarrassed. She had been told I was a returning patient, which I was not, though I had explained what had gone on to the receptionist. She thought they had discharged me and was surprised I had got an appointment, but eventually found my notes. Needless to say, there wasn't much of my 1/2 hour appointment time left. She tried to pack in as much info as possible, but not sure how much I took in with my meno brain!

*I was told that I should have a low fibre diet as opposed to the high fibre diet I have been advised up to now, as this is the cause of uncontrollable wind.

*I have to drink 2 litres of water and fruit/ herbal teas a day.

*I have to investigate the FODMAPS diet.

*Keep a food diary.

*Start the day with a large breakfast, (eat like a king), less at lunch time, (eat like a prince) and a small meal at dinner time in the evening, (eat like a pauper).

*I have to keep a food diary. (That will stop me eating naughty stuff!)

*She showed me how to sit in a squatting position to do a BM and gave me info on the Squattie Potty, which I ordered and arrived this morning (ordered yesterday on Amazon!)

*I have to try to retrain my bowels by sitting on the loo every morning whether I need to go or not for no longer than 10 minutes.

*I have to use glycerin pessaries to assist BMs if I have difficulty in evacuating.

* Avoid manual assistance as this can damage the sphincter muscle.

I was not examined and not given exercises this time. I have my next appointment in 8 weeks time. Lots of research to do and stuff to read. I'll let you know how I get on. And I'm impressed how much I have taken in! Perhaps my memory isn't so bad after all. It's helped to write it down.

[Ju Ju]

If it helps, I'll do it! With incomplete evacuation, it takes longer than 10 minutes. Just tried out the Squattie potty, which puts your feet in the right position and seems rather higher up for my feet. 10 minutes might be too long! Think I may have got the wrong one. Just relooked on Amazon and I didn't realise you can  get different heights. Of course I got the one that is too high didn't I!

[doolou]

Hi Juju. I had a physio appointment last year when they suspected I had a slight cycstocele.  She advised increasing fibre,  PF exercises religiously,  fluid increase and 5 minutes on the loo. Mentioned raising knees but didn't suggest the squatty potty. I have also just invested in one though, mine arrived today,  so at least we will have something more substantial to raise our feet on! The position definitely helps I found anyway.  It's just a shame you have to be in these circumstances before you find out all this information.  I hope you're physio's advice helps you x

[Ju Ju]

Hi doolou, this physio is a different specialism from the normal pelvic floor physio, which I had following my hysterectomy. I do pelvic floor exercises regularly.The gynaecologist/surgeon referred me due to the difficulties I have been having for several years. It was thought it was caused by a rectocele, but I guess that was just another symptom. Previous to that it was put down to IBS, even by the bowel consultant. The advice on fibre was against everything I have been told up to now, but as no one has tried to help before, I'm going to try and follow all advice even if it doesn't make sense! I do know this physio is held in great esteem and she is overworked as there are not many physiotherapists who specialise in this area....bums!

[doolou]

Morning ladies.  Has anyone on here had a rectocele and possible cycstocele repair operation please?  Im trying to get information together for my forthcoming operation. Thanks in advance x