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nigela

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Ectopic beats and beta blockers
« on: September 17, 2016, 10:35:10 AM »

Hi
still getting the ectopic beats and they are making me anxious as they come on after lunch and then I feel dizzy. This happened a couple of times whilst out shopping.My GP has felt them in the surgery yet the quick ecg did not show them up. He is sending me for a 24 hour ecg-well he hopes they will do that-years ago I was just given yet another quick ecg at hospital and told all ok as non seen. He says it needs to be seen on ecg to see what type they are. However there is an 18 week wait to be seen! I have extreme tiredness and what are like fibromyalgia symptoms plus sacro iliac joint pain and bad neck pain. wake up with neck and headache every day now. My retired GP once mentioned ankylosing sponylitis as cause of neck pain but new GPs don't seem interested in aches and pains! All put down to meno! Aged 55 and no periods now for 8 years.Certainly all worse since meno though!  Been given beta blockers as I was years ago then they were taken back off me and told I didn't need them as no ectopic showed on quick ecg at the time. read they can cause low BP and dizziness and nausea which I get already so do not feel like taking these until see a specialist! Anyone else had anything similar?
Thanks
Nigela
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Annie0710

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Re: Ectopic beats and beta blockers
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2016, 11:02:29 AM »

I've been diagnosed with arrythmia (heart rate all over the place) but they won't give me BBs as they say it'll make my asthma worse

Have you gone to decaf coffee ? That's helped me but not eradicated it

Just as I'm relaxing/drifting off to sleep I get massive thumps, probably where a beat was missed then made up for it, it really startles me then leaves me feeling nervy even though I understand them it's as if it's given me a massive adrenaline rush

Annie x
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Dancinggirl

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Re: Ectopic beats and beta blockers
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2016, 11:25:40 AM »

Hi nigela - here are my thoughts in case they are of use.  Having read so many posts on MM, it seems the type of problems you are experiencing are quite common.  Problems with joints and palpitations are particularly common. Sometimes drugs are not the best way forward as these can bring other side effects!

If you are finding the pain makes it difficult to get about or you already do all the things I am going to suggest and these strategies are not helping, then please ignore the next section. Here goes:

Firstly: do you have a good mattress?  A mattress that supports your body shape and weight in the right way is very important, particularly as we age. A pillow that supports your neck is also important. 
I do a bit of B&B and one of the things I was determined to provide was a good mattress - all too often hotel and B&B mattresses are too hard.  Our guests often comment on how good the mattress is and I have to give them the details. We have good friends who have bought the same mattress having stayed with us and tell us they now have far fewer back issues!!!!
Is your bedroom well ventilated? - the right temperature and fresh air can make a big difference to how we sleep and subsequently how well we feel in the morning. If you are even slightly dehydrated then this will give a headache in the morning.

I am an ex professional dancer and my joints are rubbish :-X  - I find even yoga and pilates can make my back, hips and neck really painful.  I take Omega 3 religiously (good for joints and heart), I also take Vitamin D in winter (helps absorb the calcium, reduces fatigue and many other benefits)) and I recently added on Magnesium as I realised my diet was a bit low on this ( also vital to help absorb Vitamin D and calcium and can sometimes help with palpitations).  I am very careful with the portions I eat as well - I eat about one third of the amount I used to but I am still about 1-2 stone above my dancing weight. :-\ 
I walk A LOT - I have a pedometer and I'm averaging over 3 miles a day. The right type of exercise can make an enormous difference to joint pain and keeping muscle strength.  Apparently in Germany they actually prescribe Nordic walking on their health service - I have a friend who teaches this and is now in great demand as Nordic walking is growing in popularity because of it's benefits.

Something which I really think could help you is some advice from an osteopath or physiotherapist - someone who will look at your posture and sleeping position and how you move generally and give you simple exercises that may alleviate pain and strengthen muscles to prevent further joint pain and damage. Exercise is the best way to help with blood pressure and things like palpitations - improves circulation, can reduce headaches, lifts the mood - the benefits are endless - BUT it does need to be the right exercise for you. If anyone takes up an exercise regime that is not appropriate it can do more harm than good.

I do hope this helps - I know only too well how miserable it is to have headaches, joint pain etc. that can make life miserable. 
I would certainly ask for a bone scan and blood tests for Vitamin D and iron levels. Dg xxxx
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nigela

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Re: Ectopic beats and beta blockers
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2016, 11:33:56 AM »

Thanks, yes pilates etc made my neck etc worse-came out with nausea! Yes bought expensive new bed. Doing exercise class tho and more dog walking-find sitting is worse for my back! taking extra magnesium too-is it ok to take calcium too-or is this supposed to be bad for hearts? Seem tobe having a bad run at the moment though had a lot of worry at beginning of the year so that may have made me more stressed, which certainly does not help. Got signed off the physio with exercises to do-I do them twice a day.
Thanks again for your advice.
Nigela
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Dancinggirl

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Re: Ectopic beats and beta blockers
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2016, 11:47:29 AM »

Oh nigela - you poor thing - obviously doing all the right things and still no better.  Ask GP about calcium.

I can't sit for long - my hips get stuck!!!!

Stress can make everything worse i find.  Hopefully the stress will get better soon - maybe do some serous relaxation?????  Indulge and spoil yourself.  DG xxx
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toffeecushion

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Re: Ectopic beats and beta blockers
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2016, 02:22:47 PM »

Dancing girl - would you mind pm me the matrress details please.   I have trouble with headaches and shoulder pain and am sure it is my mattress or pillows.  Thanks
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Rustysmum

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Re: Ectopic beats and beta blockers
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2017, 02:53:33 PM »

Dancing girl could you please PM me the details of the mattress too? Thank you!
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countrybumpkin

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Re: Ectopic beats and beta blockers
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2017, 10:05:54 PM »

I have had ectopic heartbeats for over 30 years!  At their worst every 3rd beat was a missed beat. I tried everything to get rid of them but they seem to come and go of their own free will although alcohol and caffeine and having a full stomach was a trigger.  I saw many cardiologists and loads of 24 hr ecg's over all this time all picked them up and was always told they are HH  ( harmless but horrible). Cardiologists class them as a normal variation of heart beat and if someone is unaware of them ( believe it or not lots of people don't feel them!) then they don't even tell them they have them. I was told anxious people always feel them ::)

They only medicate when people feel they are affecting their quality of life, beta blockers being the first port of call but they can cause additional problems and are not always effective for ectopics. The big guns drugs are like flecanide which is a serious heart drug which many years ago I was offered but declined due to the risks of this drug.

Once you can accept that they are horrible but harmless then they are easier to live with, hormonal upheaval also affects them either making them better or worse but the biggest help for me was acceptance that they are not going to harm me ever and I found that once I stopped obsessing and focussing on them they would improve hugely although I have never had a single day without noticing them at least once!
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