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Dancinggirl

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Re: bleeding
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2016, 04:31:59 PM »

minimumonschein - thrush doesn't need antibiotics - in fact antibiotics will often cause thrush.  If you have bacterial vaginitis then that sometimes requires antibiotics but the infection can easily return if the flora balance is wrong in the vaginal area. If you do have thrush then the over the counter Caneston treatment is all you need.
Using vaginal moisturisers and vaginal oestrogen can help prevent thrush and BV from developing in menopause. If you have been bleeding a lot then this will certainly create an environment where thrush and BV can develop so getting the bleeding under control and using Multi Gyn Actigel and/or Sylk together with Vagifem will help.  Don't wash the vaginal area with scented products, don't wear tight trousers and eat plenty of yogurt to keep the gut flora healthy as this will help the flora in the vaginal area as well I think. 
Looking after the ‘lady bits' in menopause is an ongoing challenge - I find using Sylk everyday really helps.  DG x
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Taz2

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Re: bleeding
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2016, 04:54:17 PM »

Hi mimumonschein

You might find this interesting reading as it identifies a link between vulval itching etc. and a high level of iron in the blood. Once you get this under control you may well find that the vaginal symptoms disappear http://ir.uiowa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1253&context=pog

It specifically says this

"identified 3 case reports with
generalized pruritus as the major
symptom prior to diagnosis of
hematochromatosis on a Pub Med
search.2-4 To our knowledge this is the
only report where localized vulvar
pruritus has been the presenting
complaint prior to the evaluation and
diagnosis of hemochromatosis. Rather,
we were anticipating iron deficiency
anemia as a possible systemic etiology
for her persistent pruritus.1 As noted
with the prior case reports, the temporal
improvement in symptoms after near
normalization of her serum iron and
ferritin levels suggest that the pruritus
was primarily due to the underlying
hematochromatosis.3,4 Thus, these
cases demonstrate how extremes of
serum iron levels may correspond with
vulvar itching and irritation"

Taz x
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mimumonschein

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Re: bleeding
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2016, 01:50:37 AM »

Thank you Taz2. I have been tested for iron level again but my GP would not send me to the specialist...

DG, the canestan test was positive and symptom is trichomoniasis??
But I have been tested negative for STI twice since August and I haven't had a sex as my condition is worrying. I'm going to another gynaecologist on Wednesday. To be honest I don't know what more tea I need... gynaecologist don't do thrush test or STI? I am going to walk in Gum clinic again but I'm quite fed up now. Nights are horrible...
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Dancinggirl

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Re: bleeding
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2016, 11:01:44 AM »

Having certain bacteria present in your vaginal area is very common and many women will be walking around with this with few, if any, symptoms. Bacteria from our gut will often cause this as we women are not designed very well - our anus is too close to the vagina. Eating lots of yogurt is thought help as it improve the positive bacteria in our gut - you can also use some plain yogurt for the vagina as well!!!!
When I had tests done at a GUM clinic many years ago they told me I had a bacteria present but said they don't bother to treat this as it is common for these bacterias to come and go.  When meno hits the lack of oestrogen makes the whole area more sensitive and less able to fight infection.  If I'm aware that I have a bit of infection then I use lots of Multi Gyn Actigel which is designed to treat and prevent vaginal infections.  Maintaining a healthy environment with local oestrogen and vaginal moisturiser will make everything more comfortable and less prone to infection.  Dg x 
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mimumonschein

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Re: bleeding
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2016, 11:33:46 PM »

DG,
I have been prescribed metronidazole for 7 days for BV. Can I mix it with taking duphaston (dydrogesterone) 10mg?

Sorry, this is a kind of question I should have asked the doctor but I did tell her I'm taking dupaston Duphaston tablets 10mg (contain dydrogesterone, a synthetic progesterone, used to treat a variety of conditions resulting from a lack of endogenous). This helped me that I'm not bleeding all the time. And today I've been diagnosed with BV. (Not thrush or no STI)
I am always grateful for your advice.
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Dancinggirl

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Re: bleeding
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2016, 11:29:07 AM »

mimumonschein - I'm sure it's fine to take both.  Where do you live? Duphaston isn't available in the UK any more unfortunately!!! Dydrogesterone is only available as part of a combined HRT called Femoston - it is a good progesterone as it is kinder and well tolerated by many women.
Eat lots of live yogurt - I assume Metronidazole is an antibiotic and you need to restore the flora balance in your gut after taking this.  DG x
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mimumonschein

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Re: bleeding
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2016, 07:12:26 PM »

Thank you DG. Yes I think Duphaston is great. I live in London but my friends are French so I went to a private gynaecologist at "Medicare France". I cannot pay a private gynaecologist anymore I still have the Duphaston treatment is for three months. DG, which live Yoghurt is the best? I do need to fight against BV after I finished the antibiotics course with metronidazole. And any other food against BV? Do you believe in holistic treatment or natural herbal treatment? Do you take any supplement? I appreciate for your advise. You are better than some doctors.. Mimu xx
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Dancinggirl

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Re: bleeding
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2016, 10:30:07 PM »

mimumonschein - I have tried just about every herbal or alternative remedy there is for reducing meno symptoms and I haven't found anything that works. Good diet, lots of brisk walking and plenty of relaxation are the best alternatives.
I am now 60 and do take some supplements e.g. calcium, Vitamin D, Omega 3 and Magnesium and, when I feel I need it, I take an Iron supplement. 
Any natural yogurt will help the gut and give a good amount of calcium as well - we do need to look after our bones.  Cut out as much sugar in your diet as you can and reduce caffein.  Vitamin D deficiency is very common ( non of us get enough sunshine) so supplementation is now recommended throughout winter - lack of Vitamin D will result in low energy, low mood, aching joints and many other things.
Make sure you clean really well after opening your bowels - most BV will be caused by bacteria coming from your poo. As I mentioned before - using vaginal moisturisers helps to prevent bacteria taking hold. 
Good luck  Dg x
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mimumonschein

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Re: bleeding
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2016, 11:13:42 PM »

Yes I do agree with you. I don't think any herbal remedy will help the menopause symptom. I'm lucky that I don't have more horrible symptoms like hot flush. Hormones just play with us. BV is horrible enough that I don't feel so attractive anymore. I have a hypertension and I'm taking medications since more than 10 years. I asked my mum and she didn't even know what menopause was. Lucky her.
I didn't know that the bacteria comes from my anus area. I have sometimes itchy bum as well. Multi-gym actigel prevents having BV? It's just so awful having the itchy and burning sensation all the time for 4 months now. I feel like the antibiotics are helping now but I know it will be the same as soon as I stop taking the medication. I'm scared.

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Taz2

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Re: bleeding
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2016, 11:37:44 PM »

I still believe that your problem is linked to the high iron levels. It is one of the symptoms - vaginal problems. If you do have  haemochromatosis it is vital that you are referred to a specialist for urgent treatment. Your heart and liver can be damaged by too much iron. Don't be fobbed off by your doctor - this needs sorting before you become really ill.

Taz x  :hug:
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mimumonschein

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Re: bleeding
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2016, 12:37:07 AM »

Thank you Taz. I have been tested again and my iron level was normal. Also blood count and liver related. I will then regularly check with the blood test. I do have a feeling that my problem with BV will go on so I must keep eye on it. But for the moment they cannot do any treatment. One thing they are going to check is that I will have a test with a camera to see where three fibroids are. They may be causing problem, too. Mimu
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Re: bleeding
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2016, 12:24:19 PM »

It's good that your level is now ok. I do hope that you feel better soon.

Taz x  :)
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mimumonschein

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Re: bleeding
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2016, 06:24:43 PM »

Thank you Taz. I do appreciate your concerns.

DG, I an taking metronidazole for BV. This medication for trichomoniasis?? But the doctor who gave me this medication said I'm negative for trichomoniasis. My swap test was slightly positive for BV, so she is trying out this medication. The itchiy and burning symptom is better but somehow I know that it's not gone.... I am going to use Multi-Gyn Actigel if it needs to be. Is it the best cream? I have a feeling that my vaginal skin is becoming chronically sensitive. Does it help to go to the dermatologist and do the biopsy? Does antihistamine helps? Thing is that you cannot see anything down there.... ahhh help. I don't think I'm imaging it though. Thanks Mimu xx
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Dancinggirl

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Re: bleeding
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2016, 10:11:17 PM »

mimumonschein
Looking back over your posts, you described having continuous bleeding for some time - I think this constant bleeding may have started your current problems. The vaginal area and skin needs natural secretions and enough oestrogen to remain healthy and you may have had BV on and off for some time due to this constant bleeding.
The antibiotic you have been given will possibly be a standard one for any infection within the BV range so I wouldn't worry about this.  I think I suffered with BV for some time before I realised that it was the imbalance of my vaginal flora that was probably causing my vaginal issues.
I have found that Multi Gyn Actigel is very good at treating and preventing BV and I use this at the first sign of the itching or burning which indicates I might have an imbalance.
Finding the treatments that work for you is trial and error but constantly using ABs is not good. I would certainly recommend you ask you GP for Vagifem local oestrogen and use this as prescribed to help restore and maintain your vaginal area.  I would also recommend you buy Sylk vaginal moisturiser as I find this brilliant at keeping things moist and comfortable on a daily basis. DG x
 
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mimumonschein

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Re: bleeding
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2016, 02:05:18 AM »

Thank you, DG.
I do agree with you. Now I stopped bleeding but I developed BV symptom. I won't take antibiotics anymore after I finish this course. Also more cream I put it gets worse. I bought Sylk but it didn't really help as I don't really have a problem being dry. I am eating live yoghurt etc... my vaginal area is usually quite moist so I don't know if I am lacking Oestrogen.
Do you use Multi Gyn Actigel as moisturiser? I have seen Multi Gyn flora plus and also capsules .. do you think they help? Does GP prescribe Vagifem? I asked one NHS gynaecologist but she refused to give me Vagifem and just gave me a shower gel for psoriasis..... How do I know that I'm really lacking of Oestrogen if it's not dry around vaginal area? I have noticed that too much washing is bad too. It feels like my vaginal skin is irritated from so many different creams and medications. I am really quite ready to go to my friend's recommended gynaecologist in Paris. I have heard they are advanced in those issues. But No, it must be possible to treat my condition in England, too. I have been reading reports about women having BV for years. Does it stop one day? I am not in a relationship st the moment but it seems like I will never have a partner with my condition like this.  :'( Mimu
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