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clare663

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Citalopham
« on: November 21, 2016, 04:34:18 PM »

My only symptoms are hot flushes and anxiety. Have tried various HRTs but to no avail as I end up worse! Would it be worth taking citalopham as these are my only post meno symptoms?
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Hurdity

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Re: Citalopham
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2016, 04:38:11 PM »

Which HRT types have you tried and how long have you given each type before deciding they are not for you? HRT is still the first line of treatment for hot flushes caused by oestrogen deficiency. I am sure there must be a preparation available at a dose which would suit you?  Can we help any more with this? Sorry I can't remember how old you are!

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bramble

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Re: Citalopham
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2016, 04:56:27 PM »

Citalopram can help as can clonidine with hot flushes. Have a read on the green menu where they are mentioned,

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babyjane

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Re: Citalopham
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2016, 05:54:41 PM »

A low dose of Citalopram has given me relief from anxiety, but it doesn't work overnight.  It took about 6 - 8 weeks to see the benefits and about 3 months to feel really comfortable with it but I believe HRT preparations also require the same settling in period.  I also found my hot flushes reduced considerably.  I am quite happy using it as it keeps me on an even keel but I also realise it is not a cure all for everyone. Good luck with your decision.
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clare663

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Re: Citalopham
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2016, 10:21:39 AM »

Hi all and thank you for your input. Ive just turned 50. I cant remember the names of all I have tried but I started with a tablet form when I was peri. I was only on it a week when I had what can only be discribed as a breakdown and it was horrendous. I then tried a sequi tablet about 18 months later. Had six months on that and periods were extremely heavy and painful and ended up a weeping mess. Gave it all a break for 4 years and was then post meno. Tried the Everol conti patch and was great for 6 weeks and then ended up suicidal. Had another break for 2 months and then tried the gel and ultrogestan virginally 1-25. After 6 weeks ended up a complete mess again. Been off it all for 2 months now but the symptoms are creeping back. I think Im one of those unlucky ones that gets a build up of oestrogen as when I stop it seems to take quite a while to get the symptoms back. I can never work out if its the oestrogen or progestan that causes me the issues or both!
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babyjane

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Re: Citalopham
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2016, 02:01:10 PM »

Hi Clare, I was given some HRT on several occasions meny years ago and, like you, I just couldn't take to it in the same way I could never get on with the contraceptive pill.  It certainly isn't a cure all and some women are very sensitive to synthetic oestrogen as my lovely lady GP told me.  I did better on nothing at all until 2 years ago and the sister drug to Citalopram called Escitalopram is what I have settled comfortably on for the time being.

Don't worry if HRT doesn't suit you, it sounds like you have given it a good go and it really is not suitable for every lady.
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dazned

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Re: Citalopham
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2016, 02:09:56 PM »

Dont worry ,Im sure you can find something that suits you. Unfortunately like hrt all ADs are very much trial and error. It seems like me you have tried most hrts to no avail. I did well on hrt for several years then it stopped working for me and nothing I tried hrt wise was doing it for me. Anxiety and palpitations were off the scale tried an AD and and it all stopped. Hang on in there something will help you too it's just a matter of finding it .
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clare663

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Re: Citalopham
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2016, 04:05:42 PM »

Hi, I have used Citalopram before for depression when I was in an abusive relationship. I think I may give it another go but nt looking forward to the down before I get up!! As Im not actually depressed im hoping  the side effects wont be as extreme as they were before!!
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MIS71MUM

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Re: Citalopham
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2016, 04:59:31 PM »

Just a thought, and could be way off here. But you say you don't know whether it was Oestrogen or progesterone phase that upset you.
Strangely I have the exact same myself, basically I had the fluctuations of both o & p, then the worst was the withdrawal of the progesterone which made me cry for 10 days every month.
Could you consider the Mirena coil maybe as your progesterone as you have no withdrawal from it. Then you could add your own separate oestrogen in.

I too, was okay with the progesterone in evorel for a while, then I suddenly felt such much worse.  It is meant to be the harshest progesterone going.
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clare663

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Re: Citalopham
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2016, 11:39:03 AM »

Hi Mis71Mum. I think I am just sensitive to both as I have also tried the oestrogel and then the utrogestan after 4 weeks and still end up in the same position. Interestingly my eldest sister couldnt take HRT for the same reason and she had the mirena coil. One of my other sisters cant take HRT as she had oestrogan fed breast cancer so she had to take tablets to stop producing oestrogen after her mastectoy and before they removed her ovaries so she just plummeted into the menopause. My mum couldnt take it purely because the patches didnt stick lol! Not sure what my other sister does as she lives in Spain but seeing her Friday so Ill ask how she is coping.
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Hurdity

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Re: Citalopham
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2016, 02:56:36 PM »

Hi clare663

Sorry to hear about your sister's breast cancer. Did she develop breast cancer under the age of 40 as this can be a risk factor for close relatives?

Re the HRT - I still think you could do well to explore further options to see if there is one that suits you - since this is ideal to eliminate hot flushes and anxiety, rather than ADs at this point - provided you are not at increased risk of breast cancer. HRT is the first line of treatment for menopausal symptoms.

The good news is that once you are post-menopause it should be very easy to settle on the right type. However for many of us this does mean maintaining some sort of cycle with withdrawal bleed - because this means that you do not have to take progesterone (synthetic or not) for very long each cycle, and it sounds like progestogens do not agree with you. Both the types of hRT you tried recently were continuous HRT ie you took the progestogen most of the time. many women react to norethisterone (in the Evorel conti).

Have you thought of a Mirena coil? I am sure this will have been suggested in other threads? Only a little progestogen gets into your system but you might even be sensitive to this.

In your position I would either try the Mirena coil with added oestrogen, starting with a low dose patch - 25 mcg Estradot would be a good one - and then increasing little by little if this did not improve things. Some woemn need to build up very slowly when adding exogenous oestrogen ( from outside the body) - because even though it is bio-identical - it is being introduced without all the other hormones that work alongside it, so can throw the body into confusion in some women it seems!

Otherwise I would ask for a referral to a menopause clinic/specialist (if your GP is not sufficiently knowledegeable) or ask to re-start on a cyclical HRT if you can bear the bleeds, starting with 25 mcg patch and building up. As an example I use  approx 50 mcg Estradot with utrogestan every 6-8 weeks vaginally for 12 days. This gives me a withdrawal bleed. My doc is happy with this. I am in my 60's and have been on more or less the same regime since late peri-menopause when I was almost 54 and it keeps all the flushes and sweats at bay and I don't have anxiety - I am a worrier but then many of us are - that is nothing to worry about as it doesn't interfere with life!

You could maybe discuss taking it for fewer days on a slightly shorter cycle and you may well find you feel well for most of the time. In your position I would not take continuous progestogen at all ( except as a Mirena).

It is better really to replace oestrogen for as long as you can than take medication - but again I emphasise only if you are not at increased risk of breast cancer and if your doc/specialist has said it is OK. If you are at risk and would prefer not to take HRT on this basis, then I would try any AD that works!

You do need to give HRT 3 months to settle though....

Also re what you said earlier - oestrogen does not build up as such once it reaches a steady state at the dose given as it is continuously metabolised. Actually you are one of the lucky ones (as I am) whose symptoms don't recur after stopping until several weeks later. Some unlucky women are sensitive even to very small changes (reduction) in oestrogen and get flushes when for example a patch need changing or more gel is needed.

Hope this helps :)

Hurdity x

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