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Autumn16

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Re: Serum oestradiol level
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2016, 08:28:20 PM »

Thanks Menomale
All things menopause have knocked me for six😩
To all the the women on this forum thank you for being the light in the storm.
My hope is that my GP practice will hopefully educate themselves about menopause and hrt for other women.
Something Hurdity said in a previous thread resonated with me and she is right, why should we have to go down the private route when our gp's should have some idea about something that every woman will go through.
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Just thought I'd send you all flowers, cake, chocolate and champers.
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Dawncam

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Re: Serum oestradiol level
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2016, 08:29:16 PM »

Gosh Menomale - that's impressive knowledge. Do you have a science background?

Dxx
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Dawncam

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Re: Serum oestradiol level
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2016, 08:34:23 PM »

Autumn16 - for some of us, the private route was our saviour and we'd be flailing around in the dark without it. You may find that the NHS won't prescribe everything you've found out about on here. Better to stay open minded about who you choose as a practitioner. I discovered this after a very long and tiresome journey.

Dxx
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Autumn16

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Re: Serum oestradiol level
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2016, 08:45:20 PM »

Hi dawncam
Please don't misunderstand me,I have the private route in place once I've seen the NHS specialist I feel so let down by my GP that I figured I should not get my hopes up and have a backup plan.
I am open minded and fighting to stay positive on as you say a long and tiresome journey.xx
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Dawncam

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Re: Serum oestradiol level
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2016, 08:46:08 PM »

Haha - that seems so NOT Brazilian Menomale! I used to absolutely love Poirot with his little grey cells!

Genetics also a very relevant and fascinating science.

Dxx
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Dawncam

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Re: Serum oestradiol level
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2016, 08:51:01 PM »

Good luck Autumn16- we've all had a 'journey' on here so please share yours and keep asking - there's always someone who's happy to share their personal experience or offer a view on something you may be struggling with.

Dxx
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Autumn16

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Re: Serum oestradiol level
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2016, 08:54:33 PM »

Menomale
Our very own meno detective!!
We give you the clues and you kindly solve or provide solutions.
Maybe there's a tv series in that!!
Xx
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Dawncam

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Re: Serum oestradiol level
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2016, 09:04:59 PM »

Haha - that'd be a brilliant show - Starsky and Flush!

Dxx
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Autumn16

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Re: Serum oestradiol level
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2016, 09:31:35 PM »

This should become a new thread😁😁
How about Cagney and Flakey 😂😂😂
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Autumn16

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Re: Serum oestradiol level
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2016, 09:36:21 PM »

Wow fantastic inspector meno😀😀
Thank you🕵🏻‍♀️🕵🏻‍♀️🕵🏻‍♀️🕵🏻‍♀️🕵🏻‍♀️🕵🏻‍♀️🕵🏻‍♀️
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dangermouse

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Re: Serum oestradiol level
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2016, 09:44:54 PM »

Me too, Menomale - I'm a bit addicted to murder mysteries! Even Murder She Wrote cheers me up. Hope you get The Missing II soon on BBC America as its a right old conundrum!

I was told by a GP that the NHS can only treat disease and injuries, and the menopause (like a cold) is not classified as that, presumably as its self-limiting. I remember her asking me why I was there, when my period hadn't even stopped, and I said that I wanted to feel better. She just smiled and shrugged her shoulders and said 'I'm sorry but we're not here for that'.

I think this sums it up why, as much as we can come across some truly amazing NHS GPs who really want to help us, its not actually in their remit unless it has risk involved like an early menopause. Even if we are on the floor dry heaving, feeling suicidal and having to give up our jobs, its not going to kill us and it will eventually stop. In which case, if we don't have a supportive GP or supportive prescription options, then paying ourselves for private medicine is a way to help us cope.
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Dawncam

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Re: Serum oestradiol level
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2016, 10:55:02 PM »

Touché Menomale

Dxx
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Hurdity

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Re: Serum oestradiol level
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2016, 07:25:54 PM »

Hi Autumn16

As Menomale has shown, estradiol levels do vary from lab to lab and in fact although the GP notebook reference range is lower than some of these (but cautions there will be slight variation between labs), they are all in the same ball park - so for example if your readings were taken at the pre-ovulatory peak then a couple of hundred here or there probably doesn't make any difference.

http://www.gpnotebook.co.uk/simplepage.cfm?ID=570818627
(it's not always possible to get access to this site)

Reference range (oestradiol)
pmol/L

50-200 males
70-510 females: early fol. phase (day 5)
390-1480 females: preovulatory peak
70-600 females: luteal phase
< 130 post-menopausal

Note that reference ranges may vary between laboratories.


If your progesterone was that level, then that is not low for either the follicular phase (first half of the menstrual cycle) nor post-menopause and is consistent with the fact that you might have just ovulated. Progesterone does not need supplementing on this basis - this is a fallacy and you won't find NHS nor private gynaecologists recommending you need to do so except in cases of heavy bleeding, anovulatory cycles, thickened endometrial lining and sometimes pms (although this is controversial).

I am unfamiliar with the oestrogen levels that can be obtained during peri-menopause (the oestrogen surges women refer to) in the absence of ovulation and whether levels reach anywhere near the pre-ovulatory peak. If they do then that is also an explanation for your high levels - several follicles trying to ripen but not one becoming dominant as with ovulation. Only your doc/specialist referral will be able to tell you  if it is a concern.

Incidentally do I remember from a previous thread that you said you tended to get urticaria at the end of your cycle just before a period when oestrogen is low, or have I remembered wrongly? Also did you have urticaria around the time you had the blood tests done? If not then your blood tests results demonstrate that it certainly can't be due to high oestrogen levels per se !!

Anyway all the best with your continued care and hope you manage to get it all sorted including doc appointment and referral if necessary. It is wonderful that you feel strong enough to keep fighting at this stage. I really do feel that whatever we on here (this forum - and with the help of the info on this website) can do to help improve the treatment that women get in even a small way little by little - from the grass roots up - then - that has to be a good thing :).

Do keep us posted which I am sure you will.

Hurdity x
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Autumn16

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Re: Serum oestradiol level
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2016, 08:01:14 PM »

Thanks Menomale and Hurdity
Support is everything 😀
I haven't had a period or any spotting since April nor have I had any urticaria so when my oestradiol levels came back so high I wondered wether it wasn't oestrogen that was causing the urticaria after all.
The menopause throws us all a curve ball.xx
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Dawncam

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Re: Serum oestradiol level
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2016, 08:13:42 PM »

Haha menomale - I'm exactly the same! Great detective qualities though!

Dxx
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