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Evelyn63

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Daily Telegraph
« on: August 29, 2016, 07:35:57 AM »

This appeared in the Daily Telegraph, thought it quite interesting .


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/health/ive-had-breast-cancer-but-it-wont-stop-me-taking-hrt/
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peegeetip

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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2016, 09:25:27 AM »

All these articles sound like a turf war between different medical factions with different agenda's.

"Running roughshod over those wonderfully comforting guidelines issued by Nice last year."

Says it all for me. Even when NICE released their new guidelines they had sniping and moaning from long time HRT detractors in the days that followed.

But this article actually paints some reality on the situation a lot of us find ourselves in.


For me the following should sum up anyone's doubts on HRT:

"Finally, after a decade urging caution, in 2015 Nice concluded that up to a million women could be “suffering in silence” after being frightened off treatment, and that doctors often “overestimate the risks and contraindications [of HRT], and underestimate the impact of menopausal symptoms on a woman's quality of life.''

Read that again ! "Up to a million woman could be "suffering in silence" !!!

Lets not suffer in silence  :-*
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Tempest

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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2016, 11:09:36 AM »

Aside from 'suffering in silence', quite a few of us are 'shouting to be heard'.

The surgeon who did my oopherectomy witheld HRT for over a year following my surgery, because he 'does not like HRT'. I saw him at 3 monthly intervals post op. and every time he said 'im not giving you HRT'.

My life became so unbearable, that I actually tried to end it and ended up in a psychiatric hospital. Prior to all this, I was a Certified Accountant. I turned into a certifiable wreck.

I have started HRT now, but my body is having great difficulties adjusting to it. I'm also sure that the trauma of what I've lived through over the last 17 months will never leave me.

We have a meeting with this surgeon in October. He has also been subject to a complaint lodged with the NHS by my Husband, hence why I was then referred to a Menopause Consultant at another hospital.

I'll keep you posted on what happens at the meeting in October, if any of you are interested.
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Nina

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Re: Daily Telegraph
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2016, 12:57:34 PM »

Yes please do tempest. Best of luck  :-*
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Tempest

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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2016, 01:21:26 PM »

Thank you, Nina! :)
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babyjane

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Re: Daily Telegraph
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2016, 02:02:18 PM »

I would be interested to read of the outcome. 

After my mother died I had cause to put an official complaint in writing about her consultant.  There was an investigation and I did, eventually, get an official written apology but it didn't help my mother.  However I did it for her and felt she had been vindicated and cleared of being a 'fussy old woman'.
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Tempest

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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2016, 03:33:42 PM »

Thank you, Hasty, Babyjane and Sparkle!

Babyjane, it must have been very traumatic for you not to mention your Mum at the time. Elder care is another of my bug bears, but I would be here all day if I wrote about the things I have seen with the care of the elderly whilst I've been in hospitals.

Dad was treated very well in his latter days, as the ward he was on specialised in dementia care and patients with complex needs. I have however seen some very disturbing things regarding the care of elderly patients on Gynaecology wards, especially those who were transferred into hospital from nursing homes and had very few visitors (in some cases, none). I think the thing that struck me most was a general lack of kindness and patience from some of the staff. Another big issue I saw that concerned me was that patients who had difficulty cutting their food or were very slow in eating had their food whisked away uneaten, and were then handed a nutrition drink instead at mealtimes.

I asked a lady next to me once if she would like to eat, and she said very much so! All she needed was a little help and time to finish her meal. I noticed that the staff were very regimental about mealtimes, and if the patient didn't finish a meal in 15 minutes flat, then basically they were in for some pretty rough words about 'how mealtimes run to a schedule'.

I think it's a good thing that our local hospital has now extended visiting to all day including at mealtimes, so that relatives can make sure their loved ones are fed and helped if needed. But it still worries me about those patients who are alone and have no visitors. My Dad's partner used to spend all day on the wards with Dad, and before he was on the specialised ward, she used to help other patients to eat too. The nursing staff basically just looked on and let her get on with it!
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Evelyn63

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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2016, 03:34:43 PM »

I also will be very interested to see how you get on Tempest, I don't want to take away from your post, or the subject of the forum, but I wish I had put in a complaint about the way my father was treated by his GP.  In the end, the outcome would have been the same regardless, as his diagnosis was what it was, however, earlier intervention would have perhaps eased his suffering and his mind !  Poor man was told he was basically malingering , him who hadn't been to a GP for 20 years !!!  Whats worse we were starting to doubt him too.  I will live with the guilt for the rest of my life, but at least, we managed to have his final weeks in a place where he was cared for and respected. 
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babyjane

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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2016, 03:57:12 PM »

Oh Evelyn, my mother's case was a similar one.  Maybe a new thread on this subject?

In the end, the outcome would have been the same regardless, as his diagnosis was what it was, however, earlier intervention would have perhaps eased his suffering and his mind ! 
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babyjane

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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2016, 04:08:52 PM »

I have made a thread in the Private Lives section for anyone who wants to talk about poor care and making a complaint.
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Tempest

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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2016, 04:35:53 PM »

Thanks, Babyjane! :)

Oh my goodness, Evelyn63! How awful for your Father and you and your family. This is so sad, and not an isolated occurrence it seems! :(
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peegeetip

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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2016, 05:10:57 PM »

Sorry to hear of your story Tempest.

I think we've all encountered reluctance and incompetence - at various stages of our journey's.

Given your situation I guess you'll be on Estrogen only. I hope things settle soon.

I do hope you get something from this doctor - but unfortunately the law is mostly on their side.

I've said for a long time Doc's should not be the "gatekeepers" anymore - they should be the "enablers" - but too many are the former rather than the latter.

Did you start a thread on your wider experience Tempest? Would like to hear how you get on with the complaint.

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