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Kymmie

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Is this the start of peri
« on: August 11, 2016, 03:10:18 PM »

Hi everyone
I'm new here and going through what I think is Perimenopause although blood tests came back normal

Started last October when I went to see doctor with palpatations seen cardio and diagnosed with tachycardia all other tests echo bloods are normal. Feel really anxious at times. Moody irritable restless legs insomnia sweating hot flushes. Wake up sweaty just basically feel like I'm losing my mind I'm 40 soon to be 41 and was sterilised at the age of 29. My mother went through menopause at 37. One doctor said it was menopause when I was 39 and at a stage where I would just cry but my doctor now says no as bloods came back normal. Think I d cope better if I knew for sure it s menopause and I ain't got every illness there is
Thanks for letting me waffle on
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Dorothy

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Re: Is this the start of peri
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2016, 03:24:16 PM »

Certainly sounds like it. Blood tests can be inconclusive during peri which is why it is better to go on symptoms.  Might be worth trying a different doctor.  I started going through peri at 35 but it wasn't until I was 39 and saw a different doctor that I got a diagnosis and some proper help.  A lot of GPs can be especially reluctant to diagnose it in younger women.  Which is infuriating as younger women need HRT if they are to avoid health problems from losing their natural hormones too early.
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Kymmie

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Re: Is this the start of peri
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2016, 03:32:53 PM »

Thank you. I will go back and see original doctor who is female and see what she suggests it's driving me crazy I still get monthly cycle but range from 17 to 35 days apart some light others heavy. I'm finding the tachycardia and anxiety the hardest to cope with
So glad I found this forum
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Re: Is this the start of peri
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2016, 04:55:14 PM »

Browse round, make notes.  Have a look at the Daisy-web-site, I think there's a Link here.  For ladies with 'pre-mature menopause'. 
Some ladies find that keeping a mood/food/symptom diary useful as we can so easily forget how we feel on our 'better' days.

I found that eating lots of bananas every day cured my restless legs syndrome. 

Hormone blood tests are reliably un-reliable! because our levels change so many times and there are so many hormones involved.  My Gynea won't do them, goes on symptoms ;-).

Let us know how you get on!
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Kymmie

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Re: Is this the start of peri
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2016, 05:27:23 PM »

Thank you I have been keeping track of cycle s and symptoms
And I'm totally convinced this is Peri. Thanks for the advice
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Annie0710

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Re: Is this the start of peri
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2016, 05:29:40 PM »

Really does sound like peri

Annie x
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Hurdity

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Re: Is this the start of peri
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2016, 10:11:35 PM »

If you've had a persistent 7 day (at least) difference between consecutive cycles and you are having symptoms then that is usually classed as the early per-menopausal transition - provided that your cycles were normally regular previously, and that you don't have other reasons for an irregular cycle eg diet, stress, intense exercise regime etc. Palpitations are a typical symptom.

This being the case then the doc should do two blood tests 4-6 weeks apart and not rely on just one at your age as you could be set for an early menopause. Have you asked for your actual results and what day of you cycle were they taken? Do get a print-out to keep for future reference.

Here is what it says on this site about diagnosing menopause from blood tests: http://www.menopausematters.co.uk/diagnose.php . If you look at the top left tab on Menopause and all the sub tabs you can read about premature menopause.

If it is early menopause then you really need to start on HRT as soon as possible to help protect your future health and particularly heart and bones. Please go back to your doc and ask for another blood test at the appropriate time interval and ask for a print-out. if they say it is not peri-menopause then ask the doc what s/he thinks is causing your symptoms and irregular cycles and cite your mother's early menopause - as there is a strong heritability component to menopause.

Hurdity x
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Kymmie

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Re: Is this the start of peri
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2016, 06:56:07 AM »

Thank you

Doc didn't tell me the results just that bloods came back ok.

I know when I had my FSH bloods done in 2008 it was 13.5
I intend to go back to GP next week and not move till I have answers or a referral
I have had my thyroid checked and that came back normal. To me there's no other explanation.
This morning I woke up sweaty and a spotty chin. And feeling pretty sorry for myself
Really appreciate all the advice thanks again.
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Elizabethrose

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Re: Is this the start of peri
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2016, 09:14:28 AM »

Hi Kymmie

Welcome to the forum!

I really feel for you, these early stages can be really tricky to deal with as you're neither one thing or another. Like you my early peri started rumbling at about 40; my periods became very light and short, cycles changed from a religious 28 days to 21, pure menstrual migraines started, vaginal mucus became very light, night sweats started. The only thing that really caused me a problem though were the migraines which built in intensity to such a degree that doctors had to be called out to me as I was frequently status migrainous. My mother had gone through meno at 45 my grandmother at 39 and it was suggested that I was following suit.

Within a couple of years my cycles changed enormously could last anything between 11 and 37 days, both the follicular and luteal phases bucked around, I started having anovulatory cycles and the migraines began to dominate. I'm not telling you this to frighten you just to highlight the fact that through all of this the many bloods taken to try to further analyse what was going on came back with different readings every time. Some were normal and others off the richter scale. I was very lucky in that I was seeing hormone and migraine specialists who were experienced in dealing with this but one GP at my practise entirely rejected the idea that I could be in peri!!

Bloods are totally unreliable in peri. You've said you've started a diary which is brilliant. Keep a daily record of symptoms including mapping out your period. Include sweats, mucus changes, breast swelling and tenderness, headaches and migraines, mood swings, indeed anything that can paint a picture of how you are reacting at each stage in your cycle. Don't let it take over your life, just a few minutes each day. Specialists need this info to be able to make an analysis of how your body is reacting, to what and when! It helps enormously when trying to treat any problems you may be experiencing and will certainly help if you decide to take HRT. It should also confirm to any ill-informed GP that you are in peri. Incidentally, other GPs at my practise were very informed and supportive, it's the luck of the draw!

I very strongly believe that if we know what is happening to us, we are much better able to deal with it. Knowledge is power! Some women really struggle with peri/meno, others just manage, whilst others seem totally unaffected by it. We are all different. Read up on this, not just on this site but elsewhere too. There's lots of info out there. Don't become despondent when you read horror stories, remember often those who are posting on meno sites are those who've really struggled not those who have sailed through. However, this site is brilliant as it provides a base in which you are able to discuss anything no matter how personal, anonymously. It is hugely helpful and supportive with a delightful mix of women all trying to support each other.

I really wish you well x
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Hurdity

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Re: Is this the start of peri
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2016, 08:48:49 PM »

Hi Kymmie

2008 is 8 years ago - what your FSH level was then bears no relation to what it is now! That was a reproductive life-time ago!!!

Do phone up and ask the receptionist for your blood tests results over the phone - (and note them down) and also ask for a print-out - which is your right ( you might have to pay for the photocopy).

You didn't say which day of your cycle the test was done? Also as I said at your age if menopause is suspected the NICE Guidelines say that two blood tests should be carried out for suspected menopause under age 40 (despite their overall variability) and you are borderline .

This is from the NICE Guidelines (Section 1.2.5):

Consider using a FSH test to diagnose menopause only:

in women aged 40 to 45 years with menopausal symptoms, including a change in their menstrual cycle

in women aged under 40 years in whom menopause is suspected (see also section 1.6).


There is a section on premature menopause ( ovarian insufficiency) also at section 1.6 - but if your periods are not yet infrequent this may not apply.

If you are having vasomotor symptoms ( flushes and sweats), and irregular periods and other conditions have been ruled out, then despite your blood tests results anyway your doc should consider you as peri-menopausal. If after taking another blood tests they decide that you are not - then they need to be challenged as to what is causing these symptoms/menstrual irregularities, given your family history of early menopause.

So pleased you feel able to go back to the doctor and argue your case and I hope you find the information on this site and forum helpful :)

Do let us know how you get on!

Hurdity x
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Kymmie

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Re: Is this the start of peri
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2016, 10:08:13 AM »

Update

Just back from doctors and saw a new lady doctor. Who has agreed to test my FSH and AMH and thyroid and does think it's possibly peri. Although disagrees my palpatations are not connected she thinks this is a separate issue I don't has they only happen when I'm on a bleed have to go back in 2 weeks for results. Finally feel I'm getting somewhere  :)
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