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Taz2

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Oestrogen's role in preventing bladder infections
« on: August 03, 2016, 10:40:09 AM »

As some of you know I'm off HRT at the minute due to a change of doctor (my lovely lady doctor left to run her own private practice) who is unsure of whether I should be on HRT over the age of 60 with a slight rise in blood pressure. Since being off HRT I'm really uncomfortable in the bladder area etc. and have had my first bladder infection for some time. I can feel another one brewing, I think, which led me to have a look around the internet for some information before I go back and plead my case. I found this study from 2013 which gives a good explanation, I think, of how oestrogen protects the bladder from infection. I didn't realise how it worked before.


"Estrogen stimulates the production of the body's own antibiotic and strengthens the cells in the urinary tract, according to a new study from Karolinska Institutet in Sweden. The results, which are published in the journal Science Translational Medicine, show that estrogen supplements may help menopausal women to ward off recurrent urinary tract infections.

Urinary tract infections are among the most common diseases, affecting over half of all women at some point in life and repeatedly in 25 percent of these. Menopausal women have an increased risk of recurrent urinary tract infections, which has been associated with low estrogen levels.

Infecting bacteria first come in contact with the inside of the urinary bladder. The bladder lumen is covered with epithelial cells, acting as a fence protecting the vulnerable tissue as well as producing antimicrobial peptides -- the body's self-made antibiotic. These peptides act as rapid front line soldiers fighting infecting microorganisms. By the early action of the antimicrobial peptides, the number of bacteria can be reduced before they have a chance to multiply. In the postmenopausal woman, however, the epithelium is fragile and often damaged with occasional gaps between cells, which in turn affect the ability to resist infection.

In the current study, the researchers treated post-menopausal women with estrogen for 14 days, and then analyzed cells excreted in the urine. They found that estrogen acts on the epithelium in a way that the gaps between the cells lining the bladder lumen are healed, i.e. estrogen is gluing them together. This makes it more difficult for bacteria to break this protecting shield and reach the underlying cells.

"During menopause, women have low levels of estrogen, and therefore also low levels of antimicrobial peptides as well as a damaged lining of the lumen in the urinary tract," says study leader Dr. Annelie Brauner at the Department of Microbiology, Tumor and Cell Biology of Karolinska Institutet. "This will give the bacteria opportunity to reach the underlying tissue, where they can hide and stay until they are triggered to cause a new infection. By treating postmenopausal women locally with estrogen the cells lining the bladder are strengthened and the body's own defense against infection is improved, making women better suited to fight infections."

This research has been funded through grants from the Swedish Research Council, ALF and the Swedish Cancer Foundation, amongst others."

Before I started on HRT I was on a continuous, low-dose antibiotic because of repeated bladder infections until I read (on here) about Vagifem and it's use. I mentioned this to my (then) GP who put me on Vagifem and, voila, no more need for the antibiotic. I then went on to full HRT for quite a few years with no problem. I was taken off it when I got to 59 and had the most horrible kidney infection within a couple of months which took four months to overcome! I was put back on it (after lots of pleading and a letter from my gynae) due to weak pelvic tissues and the possibility of further prolapses. Unfortunately since my hysterectomy and anterior (bladder) repair I can no longer tolerate topical oestrogen as it has an inflammatory effect on the scar but I am going to use this study to state my case - that and the fact that every twenty five minutes day and night I am a dripping mess!!

Taz x
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Dancinggirl

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Re: Oestrogen's role in preventing bladder infections
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2016, 10:53:46 AM »

Good find Taz2 - this research makes perfect sense to me.  DG xxx
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Taz2

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Re: Oestrogen's role in preventing bladder infections
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2016, 10:56:24 AM »

Will see what the doc says next Thursday!

Taz x  :valkyrie:
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Kathleen

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Re: Oestrogen's role in preventing bladder infections
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2016, 11:18:55 AM »

Hello Taz2.

A very interesting find and an example of how frustrating it is when research fails to make an impact on clinical practice.

In 2010 I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis, an inflammatory bowel condition where the epithelial cells are damaged. I'm sure I read somewhere that women with UC should be given HRT to protect the lining of the gut   so I need to do some research.

Wishing you well.

K.
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Sweetscarlett

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Re: Oestrogen's role in preventing bladder infections
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2016, 01:43:46 PM »

Very interesting reading Taz2 , thanks for that
I have a horror of uti's having  had a doozy of a one just before I went on full Hrt which has eliminated the problem. So saying I still get a bit panicky and take D- mannose regularly  and make sure I have a wee after sex.
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Taz2

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Re: Oestrogen's role in preventing bladder infections
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2016, 03:44:49 PM »

I might try the D-mannose. It's three years since my horrible kidney infection but I still gripped with fear every time I think I'm starting an infection. The scary thing for me is that as you get older you don't always get the cystitis feeling - burning etc. - and it then meanders it's way further up the urinary system until you are really poorly.

Hope that you are feeling ok Ss

Taz x
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Maryjane

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Re: Oestrogen's role in preventing bladder infections
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2016, 06:19:02 PM »

I am rarely certain that a slight raise in blood pressure is not a reason to take you off of HRT ?
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Taz2

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Re: Oestrogen's role in preventing bladder infections
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2016, 06:21:55 PM »

It is when you are over 60 Maryjane  :-\

Taz xx
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robotwars

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Re: Oestrogen's role in preventing bladder infections
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2016, 08:24:49 PM »

Hi Taz 2
I know exactly where your coming from and you have every sympathy, I'm sitting here at the moment with my third water infection in a month! since I stopped  hrt at end of may, due to digestive issues, I decided to stop to see where I am at, I haven't had a period since stopping either, went to GP and he has given me estroil cream which so far isn't helping and said he wanted to refer me to gynalcology before prescribing anything else, so now I'm stuck on a waiting list! We are going on holiday in a weeks time and I'm dreading it as I keep having to go for a wee and its so painful!
I hope you have more success at doctors than I did, good luck
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Mary G

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Re: Oestrogen's role in preventing bladder infections
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2016, 08:43:56 PM »

Taz2, I hope you can get the HRT you need when you next visit your GP but if not, why don't you get a second opinion?  I would not want to take the word of this one doctor when there are others out there who would disagree with her and prescribe HRT for you.  I don't know how you are placed financially but why not seek the advice of a menopause/HRT specialist? 

I fail to see how she can justify your suffering in this way - life's too short. 
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Taz2

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Re: Oestrogen's role in preventing bladder infections
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2016, 10:50:41 PM »

I will see what the doc says. I was under the Menopause Clinic in Oxford but their opinions are the same as my GP. The only person who seemed to understand was the pelvic floor specialist nurse. I will get the new doc to call up her letter on the screen where she advised continued HRT in order to prevent further pelvic organ prolapse.

Thanks for all of your encouragement by the way. It becomes harder to fight your corner as you get more beaten down by continuous hot sweats and nether region problems!!

robotwars - I hope that you feel better soon. Are you on an antibiotic?

Taz x
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Cazikins

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Re: Oestrogen's role in preventing bladder infections
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2016, 11:05:49 PM »

I can't offer you any advice Taz as I don't know too much about bladder infections YET.

But I can offer you lots of  :hug: :hug:.

I really, really hope you get your HRT back, I remember how hard you fought for it years ago.

Good Luck.

Cazi xx
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Taz2

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Re: Oestrogen's role in preventing bladder infections
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2016, 11:10:17 PM »

I've decided that if he says no then I will wait until the sweat hits and then I will DRIP on him!

Taz x
« Last Edit: August 03, 2016, 11:20:26 PM by Taz2 »
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Cazikins

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Re: Oestrogen's role in preventing bladder infections
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2016, 11:16:30 PM »

 ;D ;D ;D

That's my girl.

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Sweetscarlett

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Re: Oestrogen's role in preventing bladder infections
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2016, 07:14:38 AM »

Good for you Taz2 !
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