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[toffeecushion]

I'm starting Weight Watchers today, want to leave 5 stone.  Anyone else starting a diet and wants support?

[Galadriel]

Good luck toffeecushion. I lost 1.5 stones with WeightWatchers. I used the recipe book for tasty meals for the whole family. I used to print it out, stick it in a Jamie Oliver cook book and my family came to their own conclusions as to what they were eating for tea

I'll be back on the plan as if Monday, to get rid of the Christmas pounds.

I'll keep you company with your eating/exercise plan 

Galadriel x

[toffeecushion]

I used the recipe book for tasty meals for the whole family. I used to print it out, stick it in a Jamie Oliver cook book and my family came to their own conclusions as to what they were eating for tea

What a good idea.

I've started well.  Didn't realise how big a portion of muesli I was having every morning until I weighed it this morning.  Even been for a 3 mile walk this morning .  Have a good day

[Dorothy]

I used the recipe book for tasty meals for the whole family. I used to print it out, stick it in a Jamie Oliver cook book and my family came to their own conclusions as to what they were eating for tea

Good idea!  Wonder if that would work with my Mum?  Really struggling to get her to eat healthy meals.  She refuses a lot of stuff which means I am also eating less healthily than I would like as I can't cook two separate meals per day. 

[limpy]

Really struggling to get her to eat healthy meals.  She refuses a lot of stuff which means I am also eating less healthily than I would like as I can't cook two separate meals per day.

It must be difficult Dorothy, I know it sounds harsh but why not just provide healthy stuff. Don't give her the option of non healthy things. Perhaps, she refuses it now because she knows she'll get her own way, you will cook her what she wants. I don't envy you, it can't be easy.

[Pennyfarthing]

Good luck toffee cushion. I need to do something too. I lost nearly 2 stones with slimming world a couple of years ago but it took forever and progress was painfully slow.  It's all back on now plus some.     

[Galadriel]

Dorothy, it's hard but I'm with Limpy. Oh and you could try my trick at the same time 

I was amazed too, when I poured out my usual bowl of cereal and then weighed it! Almost a double portion. Now I weigh my pasta and potato portions. I have a set of scales that makes it easy to weigh each food as it goes on my plate.

Well done on the good start. Are you going to meetings or doing it on line?

Galadriel x

[Dorothy]

Really struggling to get her to eat healthy meals.  She refuses a lot of stuff which means I am also eating less healthily than I would like as I can't cook two separate meals per day.

It must be difficult Dorothy, I know it sounds harsh but why not just provide healthy stuff. Don't give her the option of non healthy things. Perhaps, she refuses it now because she knows she'll get her own way, you will cook her what she wants. I don't envy you, it can't be easy.

It's difficult because I'm living in her house.  If she doesn't get what she wants she becomes very aggressive, screaming and shouting and slamming doors, so mostly I just give in.  I grate a lot of vegetables into sauces, so she is getting a little veg that way but if a meal looks too 'healthy' she won't eat it and fills up on crisps and chocolate instead!

[toffeecushion]

I'm doing it online.  Think the time is right for me, I feel strangely positive about it.

[CLKD]

My M in L weighed her daily allowance onto saucers each evening for the following day.  Once each saucer was empty that was it for the day!  She kept the weight off too.

As for your Mum Dorothy - are there other 'problems' ……… would she cook with you?

[Galadriel]

I did it on line too Toffeecushion. I stuck to my daily allowance through the week and used the extras at the weekend. If I needed more points, I earned them with more exercise.

Omg Dorothy  You have your work cut out for you

Galadriel x

[Dorothy]

As for your Mum Dorothy - are there other 'problems' ……… would she cook with you?

Nope!  Have tried this.  If I am ever too ill to cook, she snacks on junk food while I starve until I'm fit enough to get back in the kitchen! 

I did get away tonight with reducing the amount of butter in a very rich dish and then swapping part of it with a low-fat substitute.  I'll keep experimenting until I find the maximum I can reduce it by without her finding out!

[Dana]

I started WW in November which was a totally stupid time to start with Christmas and all, but I have managed to lose about 3kg (not sure what that is in pounds/stones). It's been a bit up and down lately with all the socialising I've been doing, but I'm trying to get back on the straight and narrow now. I've even started doing 2 x 30 minute walks most days, instead of just one. How dedicated am I ...lol...  Hopefully I'll reach my first goal of 10kg off by mid year.

Just a heads up - WW is changing their whole program. They are going from "Pro-Points" to "Smart-Points" and the point values for some foods have changed. They brought the change in for existing members a month ago and will be doing a public campaign this month some time.

The reason for the change is that they are concentrating more on "sugars" as opposed to general carbs, and "saturated fat" as opposed to general fats. That's why some of the point values have changed. They say they haven't made the change just for the sake of it because it costs them so much to make these changes. It seems to be a better way of doing things.

[CLKD]

Dorothy - how old is your Mum, does she have health problems, maybe it's loss of control over what she would like to eat and what she knows she ought to be eating 

I was thinking as I went to bed - mine is 89 and eats well.  She has a milky coffee at 6.30 a.m. then begins with a good breakfast of fresh orange juice, an actimel-type drink, flakes/bran.  She apparently eats her main meal at 12.30 which is a Wiltshire Farm take-it-from-the-freezer and microwave it.  She does prefer 'sweets' though and at her age, whose to argue.

On C.mas night after a very good lunch, around 6.30 she had: a plate of cold meat, a slab of cold bread sauce  , cold sprouts followed by a slab of C.mas pudding: then a 'Go' …………. by which time my tummy was rebelling but she did survive!

We've found that current 'Go' products hit the spot.  They do various types including fruity ones would it be worth a try ?

[Dorothy]

Mum is 74, but she has had issues for years - it wasn't so bad when my Dad was alive, as she respected him so didn't mess him around the way she does me, but she doesn't see why she should listen to a daughter.  I think she has a mental illness of some kind, but it has never been diagnosed.  She claims to have a lot of illnesses, but they are all ones that don't present visible symptoms so could be faked (NB:  I am not saying the illnesses are not real, only that it is quite easy to pretend you have them when you don't) - ME, IBS, allergies...  I am sceptical since they only appear when she is trying to get her own way.  So she will talk in a really croaky voice to prove she is 'allergic' to broccoli, and as soon as I agree that broccoli is off the menu, her voice goes back to normal.  Likewise the ME 'exhaustion' can come and go in minutes depending on whether or not she has what she wants!

I've tried to reduce the amount of crisps, chocolate, cheddar etc that she eats or replace cakes and biscuits with healthier snacks but she won't accept them.  Or if she does, she eats them AS WELL AS the unhealthy options, so she just ends up eating more!  My only option is to try making the main meal as healthy as I can, but it's an uphill battle.  Currently, she is arguing for me to put more salt in when I'm cooking - I point out that the food is already as salty as I can bear to eat and she can always add more to her own serving.  But apparently, that's not good enough, as the salt doesn't go all the way through then, as it does with cooking...

I made a chocolate cake a while back that has kidney beans in it.  She absolutely loved it until she found out it had kidney beans in it; then she wouldn't eat any more because she said it had a 'nasty texture'.