DH took me out for a meal, then early to bed 5 hours behind you lovely ladies. This is proving to be a lovely holiday for many reasons, not least to being able to bond with our beautiful little granddaughter. We were researching the cheapest, but not too uncomfortable way to get to NYC to see my nephew before flying home. Flying is expensive, going on a coach for 7 hours sounds like torture, especially with IBS issues. We were thinking about hiring a car, but have just been offered a lift by a family member of my DIL's if DH is prepared to drive. No problem. He enjoys driving. What good fortune! All we have to do is book a hotel, but I see I can hold fire till the last minute and get cheaper rates. We can stay anywhere on manhattan island, so not restricted too much by location.