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Smokey

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Re: Coming off or at least reducing ADs
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2015, 02:33:25 PM »

Thanks for that Limpy.

How are you with your MS these days?

I feel I am copying better with the fatigue now,I use my timer on my iPhone to make sure I stop and rest before I over do it.

I am also using Airnergy therapy 3 times a day  since  May this year,  it seems to have helped only realised in last couple of weeks that I don't feel as bad I. The mornings anymore

Ann x
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Tabbycat

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Re: Coming off or at least reducing ADs
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2015, 04:05:47 PM »

I'm in the throes of cold turkey today!

Been taking Seroxat for two weeks but it's made me feel so ill (muscle/joint pains) and made my Parkinson symptoms far worse so I stopped yesterday. I know it's not advised to stop suddenly but any withdrawal effects I get cannot make me feel worse than I already do!

Anyway, so far I've had a few mood swings and felt a bit tearful (but I've had the week from hell so it's not surprising really). Worst are the brain zaps but I think they're starting to ease off. I've kept busy doing normal weekend chores which I think has helped. My joints and muscles feel better already. So far, I don't feel too bad.
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Limpy

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Re: Coming off or at least reducing ADs
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2015, 05:05:38 PM »

Tabbycat - You've only been taking the Seroxat for 2 weeks so hopefully stopping won't be too bad.
But, if you take an occasional tablet that may work to gradually reduce the overall dose...... Just guessing

Smokey - Thanks for asking, I had a bad day with the MS end of July. Since then I would have said not bad, except I broke my ankle/fibula, and have no idea how or when it happened. I knew my ankle was sore but.........  :-\
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CLKD

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Re: Coming off or at least reducing ADs
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2015, 06:17:56 PM »

2 weeks isn't long for ADs so you should be OK  ;)

electric zaps  ::) …… I read the leaflet with my meds this morning, all the information has got longer and longer and  ::) - and each condition is mentioned, i.e. nausea or not; diarhoohea, constipation - talk about covering all possibilities.  There is a yellow card scheme to report side-effects …….
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Dandelion

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Re: Coming off or at least reducing ADs
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2015, 09:39:34 PM »

I just wondered if you lovely ladies would share any withdrawal symptoms you had when you started reducing your ADs I know some of you have been successful in stopping them.

It would be very helpful to distinguish any I might have between MS and menopause so I have an idea as to what is causing what!

Many thanks

Ann x
I was on trazodone 300mg a day and I didn't really plan a taper, I just reduced doses here and there for a good few months and got down from 300-150mg a day.
I've been on it since 2009 starting at 450mg.

Earlier this year, I started tapering, using smaller cuts but I was really lazy and disorganised, and I forgot doses, and I got so fed up of being on it that, from 50mg, I jumped too quickly to 25mg, and too quickly off, and I got attacks of real rage.
I can't remember how long it took from 150mg, probably about 5-6months.

All I have to offer is to say is that if you taper slowly and make suitably sized cuts, it is possible, from my experience to taper off painlessley.
My problems only started when I rushed the taper. If I'd have reduced from 50mg to 0mg over only two or three more months, using smaller cuts, it would have been much easier.
There's a great site dedicated to coming off antidepressants, where people share their experiences.
It even helps you to make a liquid of your medication so that you have more control over your reductions.
It's called survivingantidepressants dot com - I put it like that to avoid spam.

Good luck
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Dandelion

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Re: Coming off or at least reducing ADs
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2015, 09:48:57 PM »

I don't take ADs but it does depend on which type you take. I do know that those drugs known as benzos are highly addictive and withdrawal is often only possible by micro-tapering sometimes over a very long period of time eg a year. As CLKD says you can use liquid forms of the drug to do this. I seem to remember there is someone on here who has done this but hopefully she will be along to help you if this is the one you take?

Hurdity x
Hahahhaha what a co-incidence. It was a microtapering lady on a benzo withdrawal site that lead me to this forum.
I hope this isn't too much of a ramble, but I thought I would share as I enjoy writing.
It meanders on about micro-tapering benzos, the difficulties I had with my GP, the same GP I had hrt difficulties with.
A popular, bubbly, normally nice mannered GP/

I was prescribed valium to take a few times a week. My GP would prescribe 28 x 5mg a month.
She assured me that I would not get hooked if I stuck to a few times a week and refused the shorter acting lorazepam citing it as more addictive.
If I'd taken 0.5mg - 1.5mg lorazepam a few times a week  for the time I was on valium, I doubt that I would have got withdrawal when stopping them as they are in the system a fraction of the time that valium is.

After a few years, I got to a stage where I didn't want to take valium anymore, so I just stopped taking them, and a couple of weeks later, I got hit, suddenly, as if overnight, really bad anxiety, sweating, waking up with wet neck, and I believed I was addicted, as valium stays in the system a long time.

I went on various benzo withdrawal websites, while I was tapering down in steps, but only really got any solace and productive help from a lady with a site dedicated to micro tapering.
So, with syringe in hand, and valium dissolved in milk I microtapered my way off it painlessley.

It was a member from a another benzo withdrawal website, that suggested I may be going through perimenopause and to see my GP.

I got the test and over a year later after trying various hrt's, and settling at 100mcg evorel plus utro, my sweats/flushes went, my IBS went, and I felt less anxious.

I admit that I parked myself for a year, on femoston, even though it did diddly squat, as I was not absorbing it, rather than going back and asking for patches, I procrastinated and suffered on for another year, symtoms worseing, because, my normally very pleasant GP, turned into a fire breathing dragon when menopause came into the conversation.
When I told her that my femoston 2/10 was not working, she said that she didn't want me treating oestrogen as if it was valium.
She said that if I was not willing to try the evorel with inbuilt norethisterone patches, I would just have to 'go through' the menopause, and that it was only temporary, and hrt was risky.
She looked up utrogestan but could not find it, and was getting more ratty. As I struggle when dealing with people who get ratty, I just left the subject alone until a year later when I could bare it no more, because by this time, I was walking around in a vest top on a rainy november.

Getting back to this GP who did not want me to treat oestrogen like valium, she was the original prescriber of valium and also, the GP who prescribed me enough valium to taper.
She's known me for years, but now I see her plus others, due to availability, and most are ok, but some are difficult.
One would not give me patches due to my migraine auras but finally, after emails to and fro with Dr Currie, I found one GP who prescribed me utrogestan.

Here's where the saga links to the valium.

Me being in peri from age 42, and not being aware, meant that it took me five years to taper valium
I was still getting periods and I being only 42, I took the IBS, the moods and the hot sweats/flushes to be valium withdrawal symptoms.
It was only at age 47, did fate lead me to the lady from the benzo withdrawal site, who suggested I follow it up with my GP.

What a tapestry of events hahahhahaha
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Tabbycat

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Re: Coming off or at least reducing ADs
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2015, 03:56:48 PM »

Tabbycat - You've only been taking the Seroxat for 2 weeks so hopefully stopping won't be too bad.

I've been on ADs since April 2014, had a break between January and May this year and have tried three different ones since then.

Anyway, I'm still alive and fairly together today. Had a headache when I woke up and have been a bit more tearful - although it feels cathartic so maybe it's doing me good.

Still got the brain zaps/ringing ears. ::)
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