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[GypsyRoseLee]

That's a good idea CLKD, I will pop over there and take a look.

[GypsyRoseLee]

I find that really odd dazned. I would have thought if you were still young, and still producing enough oestrogen to have a fairly regular bleed, then you would need less HRT rather than more?

[dazned]

If you are young and starting to be peri or menopausal then you would have lower estrogen than say somewho not going to be peri or menopausal say until fiftysomething,ome women have their menopause very early, even at say 40 as Annie Evans says that about 10 years their body would be expected to have full estrogen so maybe that could be the reason ,obviously the older one gets the lower the levels but my specialist says as I get towards 60 not that I need to stop but I should look towards lowering the dose . Its all very complicated isnt it. Dr Annie Evans in Bristol has very interesting talk on you tube its in 3or4parts . She explains it a bit much better than Im trying to. But like anything else medical guess there are differing views. I will certainly be looking to drop my levels if not stopping as I get older to try to mimic in a controlled way what my body would be doing "naturally" but on my timetable not its. Well thats the plan ! 

[GypsyRoseLee]

I suppose that sort of makes sense.

I suppose I assumed that because I was still having regular periods then I was still producing normal amount of oestrogen? But having said that, for the last year my periods haven't 'felt' like typical periods. They are much, much lighter and I have stopped getting any bloating or the swollen, achy boobs I used to have.

So I suppose that must signify something? Maybe less oestrogen in my system, and what oestrogen I did still have was fluctuating hence my extreme mood swings and random insomnia?

When I had my first withdrawl bleed on HRT last month, I got the achy boobs again and felt a bit bloated. So presumably that was caused by higher levels of oestrogen?

You are right, it is complicated. I have so many questions but my consultant couldn't whisk me out of her room fast enough 

Anyway, I started feeling slightly better yesterday tea time after putting the extra 25mg patch on at lunch time. By bedtime I was feeling quite sleepy and I slept well. Woke up this morning feeling a lot better. So I suppose that is proof positive that my body does need a 50mg patch rather than a 25mg patch?

[dazned]

I would say so ,forgot sorry how old you are ? But 25 is a really small amount if you are in your 40 s I think. Do have a look at that talk it explains alot in simple terms ,it must do cos even I understood it !   

[GypsyRoseLee]

Dazned - I am 44. It was quite refreshing to hear my consultant keep telling me I 'was still very young', as no one has told me that for a very long time 

But what she actually meant was that I was still very young to have these oestrogen issues etc, and that consequently I would need stronger oestrogen to help. She implied that a 25mg patch would only really help protect 'a bit' against bone disease, but wouldn't do anything really for hot flushes (which I don't have) or anxiety/mood swings/insomnia (which I very much DO have).

I will listen to that talk later today. Thank you.