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[pepperminty]

Hi Ladies, I am lying in bed feeling so completely awful. I have just started my period on Femeston 1/10 and am on day 3 of my second pack. I felt reasonably ok until today. I was a bit off when it began yesterday, but have woken up feeling dreadful. I have had panic and feel sick and really exhausted. This is what happened before on prempac last year and why I came off it. I am lying here and can't stop crying , and I can't control it and I feel so ridiculous . It's horrible being out of control. There must be some reason why it has this effect on me at this time in the pack and some solution. I do not know what to do for the best, do I stop taking it again or do I see an expert for advice? I feel so ill; my head is fuzzy and I feel so nauseous with the runs ( delightful).I am incapable of doing anything at the moment, as I feel so ill. Any advice would be welcome . thanks pepperminty xx

[diane40]

Sorry to hear that,ive woke up feeling exactly the same but ive  come off everything(was on kliovance for about 8 years)

Hope someone comes along with some advice for you,i hope you feel better soon  x

[jedigirl]

pepperminty,
Hi lovely, sorry you're having a rough day. Sounds like your hormones are fluctuating. I was always the same after swapping packs. Always nauseous, dizzy , shivery, panicky, upset tummy (progesterone loosens your muscles, eg bowel). I hate that feeling of being out of control too, but we can't control it and trying to and failing makes you feel more out of control.
Don't panic(easy to say I know) it's all so familiar to lots of us. It WILL pass, just remember that. You may feel crap today but you will settle again. Don't stop taking the Femoston, you'll confuse your body even more. Maybe see a GP if you think it will help reassure you or need something to settle your tummy.
Take what you need to take today, do you have any emergency meds (diazepam ETC)?
Try to eat little bits or get a protein shake down you, not eating will make things worse.
Put some mindless TV on and just let today be whatever it is.
Huge hugs xxx

[pepperminty]

Hi, thanks ladies for your kind replies, I am in tears and desperate. I was ok and doing well before . This seems to happen only on this part of the packet. I have phoned my Gp and have an appointment today thank goodness. I did ask whether anyone in my surgery specialises in menopause /HRT and they said no,( that bodes well then!). Anyway I am so desperate I have called the meno clinic in my area and they have a several months waiting list on NHS . The kind receptionist has asked the nurse specialist to call me tomorrow from the hospital to give me advice also. I have decided that I need to/ would benefit from seeing a specialist , apparently the one in my area is MR Hillard ,  they said is the president of the menopause society. I am so desperate as I am sure that there must be a simple explanation and hopefully a tweeking of the hormones or dosage will help and I presume a specialist will have come across this before.  I have turned into a confused tearful lunatic this morning, overnight. I feel so ill. Thank you so much for your kind words. It's so frustrating , as I know it's the hormones . I really can't function at the moment. It's comforting to have support and advice here and to know you are not alone. xx

[SueRoe]

Oh dear pepperminty, how horrid. Hang in there. As Jedigirl says it will pass. Tomorrow is another day and you'll probably feel better. Get whatever rest you can - watching some light-hearted escapist TV always helps me. Be as kind to yourself as you would be to a friend who was feeling like this. xx 

[pepperminty]

Hi , Thanks Freda.  It's good to have support. I am going to take it easy today , like you say. I remember Hurdity posting something about the come down from progesterone , maybe it's that, as I do not suffer from PMT (off HRT)I just feel knackered ! I have decided to definitely go private for some advice. It is not acceptable that we ladies have to suffer for months  before we get expert advice. I hope that the specialist will be able to point me in the right direction, or is that just the optimist in me ? Hopefully there is a solution as I do not want to go through this every month if I don't have to. It is just a shame that I have to go private, but it's quality of life. I can live with the odd side effect, headaches , aches , cramps etc , but not when I am like this. So I am trying to be positive and am doing something about it. The worse that can happen is the Specialist says he can't help and I have to come off HRT, and the best is he knows what the problem is and sorts me out. I am hoping that as the president of the menopause society he knows his stuff and can see ma ASAP. My heart goes out to you all as it's no picnic this menopause malarkey. I am still trying to retain my sense of humour through the tears. best wishes pepperminty xx

[Dandelion]

Hi Ladies, I am lying in bed feeling so completely awful. I have just started my period on Femeston 1/10 and am on day 3 of my second pack. I felt reasonably ok until today. I was a bit off when it began yesterday, but have woken up feeling dreadful. I have had panic and feel sick and really exhausted. This is what happened before on prempac last year and why I came off it. I am lying here and can't stop crying , and I can't control it and I feel so ridiculous . It's horrible being out of control. There must be some reason why it has this effect on me at this time in the pack and some solution. I do not know what to do for the best, do I stop taking it again or do I see an expert for advice? I feel so ill; my head is fuzzy and I feel so nauseous with the runs ( delightful).I am incapable of doing anything at the moment, as I feel so ill. Any advice would be welcome . thanks pepperminty xx

Hi Pepperminty

My heart goes out to you.
I was on femoston 1/10 then moved onto 2/10 but it just didn't do jack buggery for my perimenopause symptoms.
My GP was funny with me about HRT so I shied away and muddled through for a year, suffering un-manageable depression, crying,
and anxiety, plus IBS so bad that it kept me confined to my home, until my bowels emptied properly, usually three liquid sh!ts and cramps etc.
I also gained loads of weight and looked bloated.
I know how it feels to lay in bed and just to not want to face the day.

You are NOT ridiculous. Hormone issues can cause psychiatric-like symptoms such as depression and anxiety etc.

I'm now doing much better as I am on evorel patches and utrogestan.
These hormones are boi-identical molecularly, so they are much less likely to cause problems than the synthetic ones, although I am aware the oestradiol in Femoston is also bio-identical, but the progestin is synthetic, and not all women cope so good with synthetics.

Due to the governments savage cuts, menopause resources have been cut, so we are left with GP's general body doctors to deal with meno, and, of course, long waits.

I say, give your Femoston three months from when you started, and if nothing improves, look into getting a patch plus utrogestan.

I started on evorel 50 but have had to go upto, firstly 75mcg for three months, which helped but not fully, and am now trialling evorel 100mcg.

You could pay £25 and write an email to Dr Currie, and then, take the print of her reply to your GP surgery. This is what I had to do, and although one GP wouldn't read the email another beautiful kind GP did, and she was happy to prescribe me what I needed. Cheaper than going private.

Best of luck in the meantime, and my thoughts are with you.

[pepperminty]

Hi Dandelion, thank you for your advice. I have now started flooding this morning which I didn't have before, on or off the previous HRT. I agree we shouldn't have to pay to get to see an expert , but waiting for months is the only alternative it seems and I think it's awful you had to muddle on and suffer for a year. The ladies on this forum seem to have more knowledge that most GP's . I am not made of money , but when you are desperate there seems little alternative. I did write to DR Currie last year and gave the email to my GP who asked to keep it. But I feel that I need to see an expert in person this time, as I do not want to go on like this for months if there is a solution. I have managed to calm myself down a bit now , but still feel crap! Lets hope I get some good advice when I go , and I can pass it on . Pepperminty xx

[Greenfields]

Just wanted to send you a big hug - and I hope you feel better soon xxx

[pepperminty]

Hi Greenfields, thank you for your kind words. Pminty xx

[pepperminty]

Hi ladies, I have an appointment tomorrow , the practice nurse recommended a GP in my practice who apparently takes a special interest in HRT and the menopause. So I am hoping she will be of some help. x

[jedigirl]

Good luck pepperminty,
Hope you feel better tomorrow x

[pepperminty]

Hi  thanks Jedigirl. I have taken your advice  I think it helps to do something and take control. It makes such a difference to have support when you need it. Peppermity xx

[jedigirl]

This forum is so good for support. I've needed lots and will again before I'm through I'm sure!
Take care x

[GypsyRoseLee]

Bless you. This will pass. It really will.

The fact this happens on this specific part of your cycle shows that it's just chemicals playing havoc. Awful I know, but it helps me to remember that this is a chemical/biological reaction and therefore once the reaction has finished it will pass.