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[Dandelion]

I haven't been my self since this menopause started.
I've been on femoston a year now and it's useless.
I am waking up wet every morning, and I don't want to start the day that way anymore.
My moods have never been the same since I started perimeno
Yesterday I was stood in the bank dripping with sweat while everyone had a coat on. I said to a woman next to me, Is it hot or is it just me? and she said she wasn't hot, it was not a hot day.
My upper body is always hot, my bras always wet, my neck and head always wet with wet sweaty hair.
I'm a bit scared to go to my doctor because when I asked for an alternative to HRT that did not have norethisterone in, she got funny with me.
I am going to have to do something though.
I cannot go on like this.
I cannot afford to use so much water with washing myself and my clothes.
HRT seems to work for most women, or at least work a bit, but mine is not working at all.
I thought Femoston was supposed to be good as its got good reviews.
The fact that it is failing for me, and I cannot see anywhere online where it has failed so much for others makes me feel bad about myself.

[westie]

Hi Dandelion

so sorry you are having such a miserable time, I really feel for you.

I can't offer much help I'm afraid as I'm not on HRT but I'm sure someone will be along shortly to help and advise. You are most certainly not alone, many of us have all sorts of horrible symptoms on this meno journey, it's a huge help having so many lovely ladies on here to turn to when the going gets tough.

Definitely think it's worth another chat with your doctor, from what I gather  it can take a few trials with different HRT's to get the one that suits you.

take care

W x

[Joyce]

Can you see another GP? If not ask for referral to meno/gynae clinic. You shouldn't have to put up with this.  Many of us have had to try different forms of HRT to find one that gives us the best dosage.    The sweats are awful. I remember being in Bravissimo/Pepperberry a few years back. I was trying on a dress & girl said I needed a better bra. By time she was finished getting me sorted I was soaking in sweat. Truly embarrassing! 

[Milamam]

Hi Dandelion, so sorry to hear you are not feeling well. Cubgirl is right, your therapy probably must be reviewed. What Femoston are you on, conti or sequi?

Milamam

[CLKD]

 

[Dancinggirl]

Hi Dandelion
Sorry to hear you are still feeling rotten.  I have to say I doubt it is just a matter of more or different HRT.  The oestrogen you are using is pretty much the same in each HRT preparation and it is the oestrogen part of HRT that will reduce your flushes.  Even if you tried different types of progesterone, the oestrogen would still be the same and so a different HRT wouldn't necessarily help - especially if you reacted badly to a different progesterone. 
I think there is something else going on that is making you sweat so much.
The Femoston hasn't given you any negative side effects which is great so this will be helping with many of your meno symptoms (if you stopped using Femoston you would probably really feel the difference).
I do think you need to go to your GP and ask why you are sweating so profusely all the time - what is causing this sweating? There are many other reasons for sweating and this needs to be investigated. Don't necessarily mention the HRT or the possibility of changing the HRT, just focus on your horrible sweating because this seems to be the main issue.  If your sweating was just a menopause symptom then the Femoston would be controlling the amount of flushes you get.
   DG x

[Hurdity]

Hi Dandelion

Sorry to hear this.

Just echoing the others really. Are they actual hot flushes and night sweats you are getting? If so then it is the HRT and perhaps the dose is not high enough if you are only on 1 mg - but depends where you are in menopause.

I can't remember though how far you are into menopause and how irregular your periods were before you started? Although blood tests are unreliable it might be worth asking the doc to have a blood test (perhaps on several occasions through your cycle) at the time recommended, to test your oestradiol levels, although as I said the results need to be interpreted cautiously.

I presume you have had your thyroid tested too?

Yes do go back to the doctor. If a change in HRT is suggested then your alternative is patch or gel or tablet estradiol along with micronised progesterone ie Utrogestan - but you may not need to change yet.

Good luck!

Hurdity x

[Dandelion]

Hi Dandelion
Sorry to hear you are still feeling rotten.  I have to say I doubt it is just a matter of more or different HRT.  The oestrogen you are using is pretty much the same in each HRT preparation and it is the oestrogen part of HRT that will reduce your flushes.  Even if you tried different types of progesterone, the oestrogen would still be the same and so a different HRT wouldn't necessarily help - especially if you reacted badly to a different progesterone. 
I think there is something else going on that is making you sweat so much.
The Femoston hasn't given you any negative side effects which is great so this will be helping with many of your meno symptoms (if you stopped using Femoston you would probably really feel the difference).
I do think you need to go to your GP and ask why you are sweating so profusely all the time - what is causing this sweating? There are many other reasons for sweating and this needs to be investigated. Don't necessarily mention the HRT or the possibility of changing the HRT, just focus on your horrible sweating because this seems to be the main issue.  If your sweating was just a menopause symptom then the Femoston would be controlling the amount of flushes you get.
   DG x

Hi DG

So, you think that my flushing and sweating is caused by an unknown non-menopausal reason? This is very interesting, and I might look into non menopausal causes for my hot flushes and sweats.

I am also in a low mood all the time for no reason.
It's like no matter who tries to cheer me up, I still feel miserable.
This has only come on this last few years.
It is over and above my pre-existing depression.
I could manage my pre-existing depression, but this feels almost like there is a physical organic, mood lowering unknown cause.
Dunno if it is connected with the sweating.
I had a thyroid function test a couple of years ago and it came back normal.
I get overheated in my upper body and head during the day as well.
I get soaking wet bras and my clothes feel wet and umcomfortable.

I just assumed that the pill form was somehow not being absorbed, as I get IBS-D most mornings, so I dunno if I am absorbing the oestrogen/progesterone enough to stop my flushes.
I will look into a non menopausal cause though

[Dandelion]

Hi Dandelion

Sorry to hear this.

Just echoing the others really. Are they actual hot flushes and night sweats you are getting? If so then it is the HRT and perhaps the dose is not high enough if you are only on 1 mg - but depends where you are in menopause.

I can't remember though how far you are into menopause and how irregular your periods were before you started? Although blood tests are unreliable it might be worth asking the doc to have a blood test (perhaps on several occasions through your cycle) at the time recommended, to test your oestradiol levels, although as I said the results need to be interpreted cautiously.

I presume you have had your thyroid tested too?

Yes do go back to the doctor. If a change in HRT is suggested then your alternative is patch or gel or tablet estradiol along with micronised progesterone ie Utrogestan - but you may not need to change yet.

Good luck!

Hurdity x

Hi Hurdity

Yes, I am getting hot flushes and sweats during the day, plus night sweats.
I get overheated in my upper body.

I am already on the highest dose femoston 2mg.

I am perimenopausal and use sequi hrt as I am still getting periods. They used to be slightly irregular, sometimes 3 weeek cycles, sometimes 6 week cycles.

My periods are different, mugh lighter, so I know that I am hormoally altered since starting these pills.

I tried to ask my doctor for more oestradiol, she got funny with me and said I would just have go go through meno without anything if femoston didnt suit, and I was not willing to try the norethisterone based hrt's. She had never heard of utrogestan and even when I asked for micronised, she didn't listen and said she would talk to a colleague, but never got back to me.
She seems a bit funny when I talk about hrt, but is nice as pie when I discuss other medical issues with her.
I'm thinking of buying oestradiol and utrogestan online privately, but resent having to pay.

Do you think I am not getting enough oestradiol?

[honeybun]

I wouldn't Google your symptoms to be honest. Best just ask your GP.
You could end up worrying yourself over self diagnosing.

Honeyb
x

[Dandelion]

I wouldn't Google your symptoms to be honest. Best just ask your GP.
You could end up worrying yourself over self diagnosing.

Honeyb
x

I just feel like I am not getting enough oestradiol, and, because my doctor got a bit funny with me when I asked for more oestradiol, I have suffered with the sweats ever since, because I feel someohow, I am not allowed quality of life, and I have to watch others around me heal and move through life while I stay stuck, sweating and overheating, because my doctor gets funny when I say, like oliver twist, "Please can I have more oestradiol"

I seem to need a shedload compared to other women and I don't know why.

Maybe a patch will deliver more oestradiol into my system.

As the current HRT is not enough for me, does this mean I am at risk for osteoporosis?

[honeybun]

No I would doubt it.

Have you tried the Find a Specialist Link at the top of the page to see if there is a clinic near you.

Trouble is if you increase oestrogen then you will have to increase your progesterone too.

Do you get the strange feeling that says a flush is on its way. Every one is different but a lot if us know when one is on its way. Or are you just hot all the time?


Honeyb
x

[Dancinggirl]

Hi Dandelion
Using Utrogestan won't make any difference to your flushes and sweating it is just a different progesterone that will induce a withdrawal bleed. You would still have the same type of oestrogen.  As you are still peri menopausal it would possibly be unwise to use more oestrogen at this stage. The amount you bleed each month when on HRT is not a indication that your hormones have changed - the HRT is controlling your cycle now. If you get fluctuations in menopause symptoms e.g. flushes or night sweats, then this may be your own hormones kicking in or dropping.  When you next see your GP I suggest you write down your symptoms and your questions, print out the information you want to discuss from this site e.g. the section under HRT Preparations that explains about Utrogestan and see whether you get a better outcome.
I think you need to ask the GP why you are getting so hot and sweaty all the time - I think there must be another reason other than the menopause.
Please, please don't try to self medicate as this can be very dangerous.
A colleague of mine has been prescribed Citalopram alongside HRT and has found her flushes and sweats are greatly improved. I don't know whether you are still on any ADs but maybe you need to discus this option with your doctor. DG xxx

[Dandelion]

No I would doubt it.

Have you tried the Find a Specialist Link at the top of the page to see if there is a clinic near you.

Trouble is if you increase oestrogen then you will have to increase your progesterone too.

Do you get the strange feeling that says a flush is on its way. Every one is different but a lot if us know when one is on its way. Or are you just hot all the time?


Honeyb
x

I get random hot flushes during the day. Just a slow 5 minute walk can have me sweating cobs, only on the upper part of my body.
I wake up wet with sweat.
I have a noisy fan on when in bed with wide open windows.
I'm feeling vulnerable to osteoporosis and worried I am on not enough oestradiol.
The flushes and night sweats really get  me down and ruin my quality of life.
There is a private clinic about 20miles away from me, so not much cop, as I could not afford it.
I might buy oestragel and micronised progesterone online starting with the lowest doses, but I resent having to pay privately.

[Dandelion]

Hi Dandelion
Using Utrogestan won't make any difference to your flushes and sweating it is just a different progesterone that will induce a withdrawal bleed. You would still have the same type of oestrogen.  As you are still peri menopausal it would possibly be unwise to use more oestrogen at this stage. The amount you bleed each month when on HRT is not a indication that your hormones have changed - the HRT is controlling your cycle now. If you get fluctuations in menopause symptoms e.g. flushes or night sweats, then this may be your own hormones kicking in or dropping.  When you next see your GP I suggest you write down your symptoms and your questions, print out the information you want to discuss from this site e.g. the section under HRT Preparations that explains about Utrogestan and see whether you get a better outcome.
I think you need to ask the GP why you are getting so hot and sweaty all the time - I think there must be another reason other than the menopause.
Please, please don't try to self medicate as this can be very dangerous.
A colleague of mine has been prescribed Citalopram alongside HRT and has found her flushes and sweats are greatly improved. I don't know whether you are still on any ADs but maybe you need to discus this option with your doctor. DG xxx

Hi DG

Thanks, but my doctor hasn't got time to read print-offs.
I am only in there ten minutes.
I was considering trying the patches, evorel, and running the risk of trying norethisterone, because I am crap in conflict and my doctor was seemingly combative when we last discussed hrt.
She got quite hostile when i asked for micronsed progesterone.
I really hate the sweating and overheating, it feels as if there is a heating element where my heart is.