Sorry, I completely understand your point of view, but you won't change mine. Everything you take carries a risk, herbal or prescription. However, a least with herbal the individual is in control (it's common sense to stop if they make you feel bad). My mother nearly died from anaphylactic shock caused by a tablet she had been prescribed for over two years, and every drug you take has adverse effects (herbal too). I recently had to take a course of penicillin for an infected cyst. They made me feel terrible. A one week course took me a month to recover from. I absolutely admit it was necessary for me to take them, but I also know they had a bad effect on my system, as well as good. HRT makes a lot of women feel better, but some feel worse or no better. It's not possible to know what adverse effects they have because not all show as symptoms. Now two years past meno I have very few symptoms apart from being over hot at night sometimes (no real nights sweats any more). If other posts on the forum are correct many post meno ladies experience a surge in problems once the come off HRT. It's as if it justs act like a dam and once you stop taking it the symptoms all come back with a vengeance. This makes me double pleased I did not take it.