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Progesterone cream undergoing trials
Hurdity:
For goodness sake Prajna! I didn't miss your point at all! I mentioned support and the fact that the site was from US. I explained why I thought the site was supporting the cream and that there was no disclaimer.
This is what I said:
"Also the site is sponsored by the various products they sell but there is no disclaimer stating that they do not endorse the products sold (as there is on this site for example). That counts as support in my book! "
The "this" I have put in bold refers to MM. There is a disclaimer here:
"The Menopause Shop
The products and services on this page may be of interest to women who are experiencing the menopause but ate NOT endorsed by Menopause Matters"
http://www.menopausematters.co.uk/shop.php
I didn't say the site (of the article you linked to) was a commercial one actually selling the cream, I said it supported it - and I explained why I said I thought that advertising the products wthout a disclaimer counted as support - it's support in my book is what I said - does that really matter????!!!!!
Anyway that was just an aside - the main point was about the hormones, and the article which is using outdated terminology and talks about a system that doesn't occur in UK.
Bio-identical means the molecule, chemical, hormone - whatever you like to call it, has a molecular structure that is identical to the hormones we make in our own bodies, so the makers of "Natural" Progesterone Cream are likely to be synthesising the progesterone from yams or soy in exactly the same way as the makers of Utrogestan - in fact I did read that they probably all get it from the same specialised labs that synthesis progesterone from its precursors found in the plants. So none of it is natural as such - not even the stuff in the article Prajna linked to - the term is outdated!
The point about bio-identical hormones is that they do the same job whereas for example the synthetic progestogens (like for example norethisterone) and oestrogens (eg ethinyl estradiol) do partly the same job but behave differently in our bodies and can have other effects than the "bio-identical" one.
Is that any clearer? Here's probably a clearer explanation from Dr Vliet (US gynae pioneering prescribing these hormones rather than the synthetic and horse ones)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XfpAATJkC8
Hurdity x
Hurdity:
--- Quote from: Prajna on November 17, 2015, 08:26:50 PM ---OH NO, duck.
There's another sermon coming. ;D
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--- Quote from: honeybun on November 17, 2015, 08:29:31 PM ---No.....surely not.
;D
Honeybun
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--- Quote from: Prajna on November 17, 2015, 08:40:40 PM ---Yep, there we go.
I'll sound the 'all clear' now. ;)
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:'( :'(
honeybun:
Sorry......why the sad face.
Just having a bit of harmless fun with no offence being meant.
Honeybun
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Limpy:
--- Quote from: Hurdity on November 17, 2015, 08:38:06 PM ---
Bio-identical means the molecule, chemical, hormone - whatever you like to call it, has a molecular structure that is identical to the hormones we make in our own bodies, so the makers of "Natural" Progesterone Cream are likely to be synthesising the progesterone from yams or soy in exactly the same way as the makers of Utrogestan - in fact I did read that they probably all get it from the same specialised labs that synthesis progesterone from its precursors found in the plants. So none of it is natural as such - not even the stuff in the article Prajna linked to - the term is outdated!
The point about bio-identical hormones is that they do the same job whereas for example the synthetic progestogens (like for example norethisterone) and oestrogens (eg ethinyl estradiol) do partly the same job but behave differently in our bodies and can have other effects than the "bio-identical" one.
Is that any clearer? Here's probably a clearer explanation from Dr Vliet (US gynae pioneering prescribing these hormones rather than the synthetic and horse ones)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XfpAATJkC8
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Thanks for that Hurdity.
I've not had chance to look at the video yet but will as soon as I can.
ancient runner:
Right, got it now. Thanks very much Hurdity.
Not quite seeing how that qualified as a sermon... but I'm not much of a churchgoer.
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