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Has Black Cohosh or Red Clover helped sweats?

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Pollie:
Hi jaki

The thing to bear in mind is not whether the oestrogen is 'natural' to plants or horses or whatever, but whether the molecule shape and structure is exactly identical to that which is made in the human body.

Also the BCP delivers far higher levels of hormones and often a different type of hormone than most HRT - why don't you look up the ingredients of the BCP that you took and then compare them with say a low dose HRT patch ....  Use the tabs at the top of the page for examples and then Google them for exact contents. Ask your doctor which bit of the pill raised your blood pressure..

There is research to prove that Japanese ladies who have a diet high in soy do not report many menopause symptoms - however they are now dealing with an epidemic of osteoporosis.

Speak to your doctor and then do lots more research !

HTH

Pollie


CLKD:
Thanks Pollie!  It's true too that the Asians are eating far more Macs and KFC  :o which has altered the whole way menopause in particular is affecting ladies  :(

Jaki T:
Hi CLKD

No it's not scare stories from the press, it's from my own experience - see above post of mine.

I did get unlicensed projuven cream from my GP for a while on prescription but as soon as they started to charge for it I ordered Serenity Cream online. Not sure it's doing that much really.

Jaki T:
Hi Pollie

It's so many years ago since I was on the pill I have no idea what levels were in it, it wasn't this GP or even the area I'm now in. I think it was microgynal I was taking (?), something like that, and a pretty low dose at the time. I suppose it may be on my records somewhere but don't think my GP will have time to go back nearly 40 years ago especially with the pressure on time and I have other things I need to discuss with her.

Dancinggirl:
Jaki T
You really need to try to put your past experiences behind you. Even the new BCPs are different these days and may not give as many problems as the older types that our generation took.
I am wondering why you have an issue with blood pressure?? If you do try HRt they will test your blood pressure beforehand and if it is high this needs to be treated anyway.
Do you exercise at all? Are you carrying a bit too much weight? For many women a good diet and exercise regime is vital in coping with the meno and if you do have problems with your blood pressure then this can be controlled with Beta blockers alongside HRT.  Your GP may suggest an SRRI/AD to help control the meno symptoms but many of us on MM feel this should not be the first line of treatment for meno symptoms - they also bring their side effects and problems and HRT does bring other benefits which an SRRI can't e.g HRT can help prevent vaginal atrophy and bladder problems. 
Just to clarify - you will not be allowed to use Oestrogel even in a low dose without some form of progesterone but there is also the bio identical progesterone you can try - this is called Utrogestan. DG x

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